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the more better acquainted you are with people, the better you are as a person, the more people are willing to actually say, you know what, I don't mind vetting for you and using my name as a referral to help you along the way. And it does actually have like a psychological effect as a child because you don't ever see yourself as a hero. You never really see yourself as the hero of your own story. You always see yourself as kind of the sidekick or supporting role and it's not just you, it's how society views people of color.

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security guard. He's like, Hey, how are you? Here's my ID. And he's like, Nope, your name's on the list. You're not coming in. You're listening to the Radcast. If it's radical, we cover it. Here's your host, Ryan Alford.

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Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to the latest edition of the Radcast. We're talking stars today. We're talking soaps. We're talking acting, writing everything. Christopher Sean, welcome to the show. Thank you very much for having me, Ryan. I'm honored, dude. You are a huge, huge deal. And I am just a minnow in your big pond. Oh, come on, man. Star Wars.

01:16
We got, we, we, we won awards. We were writing books. We're come on, man. I'm just the guy over here running a podcast, getting the pleasure to spot, talk to, uh, talk to the stars like yourself. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. And thank you very much for having me. It really is an honor. I'm really excited to get to know you a little bit more. Um, thank you for sharing that your mom enjoys days of our lives. You enjoy it more twice as much as her, which is really awesome. Yes, I am a, no, I'm not even in the closet.

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I'll talk about it. Like I'll get like whatever. I'm not ashamed of anything. I'm a grown man, you know? Like I can say what it is. Grew up, like literally. Now let me tell you this, Christopher. I literally, so I was growing up, I'm like 12 years old. And I come home from school and I would literally, my mom would be watching the replay or we'd put in the VCR tape that where she had taped over and over again in the episodes. I get my little Debbie cake out of the cabinet, Swiss cake roll.

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With my juice box 12 years old 13, whatever was something like that. I'm watching days. I'm catching up on my days Yes Debbie cake with the zebra ones. This is just a Swiss cake chocolate roll with the cream or whatever. I don't know And then my sister would bitch at me for For having to clean up cuz I always left it in the floor So she's like I clean up after your Debbie cakes every day

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You know, watching your, your days are alive. So there's some insider look, we just gave the audience some insider tips on, uh, my childhood growing up, watching days of our lives. So Christopher, let's, uh, let's, let's back up a bit. I won't, I want to tell, you know, I want you to tell a little bit of your story. You've got a unique background. I love your heritage and you know, some of the uniqueness of that, uh, I really want to talk about, but let's give everybody a little bit of the, uh,

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I don't know the Cliffs notes on on Christopher Sean. My father was in the Navy and he's retired now and he became a civilian as an air traffic controller. He met my mom while he's serving deployed in Yokosuka, Japan, Japan, Yokosuka, Japan. And, um, and my two sisters and myself being the youngest and we traveled kind of everywhere. Our station in Washington, Subic Bay, Japan, Mississippi.

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grandparents in Ohio, San Diego, and so forth, kind of travel all over. Southern California is home for me. I started off in acting. I was always kind of wanting to be an actor because my father, being in the Navy, he would record himself on the little beta tapes. This is predating the VHS tapes. But he would record us on the beta tapes and then he would send us little videos of him reading us books.

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And I remember being a kid and seeing my dad on TV and my dad's like, you know, reading us a little book about a bat who was playing the both sides of the animal kingdom, the ones that fly and the ones that are on land. And it was like this, I can't remember the name of the actual book, but you know, he's, he was kind of playing both sides. I remember listening to that. And my dad would be like, Hey, Christopher, sit down. I was like, how did he know I'm standing? This is crazy.

04:33
My mom would then get that camera out and then she would record us and she was like this is for your dad so make sure you having a good time and you know, so I always felt super comfortable and myself on camera and so Growing up I had never seen anyone kind of looking like me half Asian half American on television Outside of Bruce Lee and Brandon Lee who they were taken from us so soon

04:59
I didn't really have those types of role models. So I never really thought this was something that I could do as much as I wanted to do my entire life. And I always not having someone who looked like me didn't have that role model. So in growing up, I was a very, very, very, very introverted very shy person. I decided, you know what? I've got to overcome that fear and I've got to pursue my passion, my dream and I just got to go for it. So I got an acting classes and from then on it was kind of like, if you...

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I remember holding the piece of paper, shaking, barely being able to read off of the paper because I was so nervous. And I remember saying to myself, it was one of the most humiliating and yet freeing experiences. And I have to overcome that fear because I will not allow it to stop me from pursuing my passion. And from then on, I challenged the acting coach to put me in his master's program. He said, it takes two years. I said, give me six months and I'll get out. And yeah, in six months time, I was in the master's class going three days a week.

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you know, four to sometimes one, two in the morning, going up and down, running scene after scene, memorizing every single thing, doing the best that I possibly can to prepare myself for the, uh, for the trials that are soap opera worlds. I mean, you're doing, you know, my biggest week was 52 pages of dialogue, 37, 19, 12 and seven. I mean, that's, you know, it was incredible. That was just one week of work too. Um, you know, that's kind of where I started where I'm at.

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Or I'm at now in a nutshell. Yeah, man. Oh, a lot to unpack there. You, uh, it's funny how many actors I talk to or get to know are more introverted, like I always expected them to be more extroverted. I don't know what that is. Like I always like, they're just Joe V. Loco in person. They can do lines or comfortable on camera. I don't know what that is. You know how they transition the two. Is that a tough, you know, for me, it's a great, it's a great idea. And it's a great question. I think most.

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actors, they're artists. And so they really like express themselves through their art. And in the art, you're given the permission to really create and be something. For me, it's the permission. I need the permission. The people around me to say, Hey, man, we believe in you. We want you. We want to see you create. And it's like, okay, it's, I have that. Again, my mom being Japanese, my dad being military, it was be seen and not heard, you know, say, yes, sir. Yes, ma'am.

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So it was very about respect and then growing up, it's like, when do you really decide? Well, I'm an adult now. I don't think we actually ever do, you know, like even now I feel like a kid, but I have to remind myself like I'm stepdad to three kids. I'm, I've got a lady, I got a house, I got, I got two dogs, my own, you know, like I'm an adult now. I have to, I have to adult hard. Yeah. I can't be a kid, you know? But it's that permission that I have to even tell myself, Hey man, it's okay. Like.

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The 10 year old self and your 50 year old self make both of those people proud in this moment. Let's go Hey, I like that. I like that a lot. So uh that acting journey so it wasn't just a Immediate stardom and and all the riches and gold and all you know, like the every gig you ever wanted that I thought that's how it worked. Right? Isn't that the Hollywood dream?

08:16
Yeah, it's strange. I stepped out and immediately put a crown on me and rolled and started calling me Ryan Alford. I was like, wait, that's not me. I'm not the king. That's you. No, for me, I came out here and I really thought like, okay, I have to, who am I? What's going to make me unique? What's going to separate me? So I did a few beauty pageants and I thought if I had a title, I can get an agent. After I got a couple of titles, I secured an agent.

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got my agent and they only wanted to rep me commercial. And so I was like, no, no, I'm, I'm like, I was like, I was like, yes, of course, absolutely. Yes. Yes. And then I remember going home and thinking, I deserve more. I got to work. I got to show them that I deserve it. I was just too complicit. So in that decision, I remember I called them, like two weeks later after having that inner monologue being like, you're worth it. You're valuable. Come on, man. And then I called them and I was like, can I show you that I'm ready for.

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theatrical as well and they're like, okay, come on in, do a monologue for us. And I did, I did.

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Oh, it slipped my mind, but I did a monologue and they gave me a two year contract on the spot. Signed across the board. I was like, okay, so as long as I can continue to overcome my fears and speak what I want I can have it and Every audition room I got in I learned something I failed and I failed and I failed I wasn't either whether it was my look I'm not Asian enough or I'm not white enough

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Whether it's my experience, my resume wasn't big enough to be able to get the larger roles, whatever it may be, I failed time and time again, countless amount of times. But through each failure, I learned and I grew and I adapted and I evolved. And I found that, you know, nothing was gonna stop me unless I gave up, unless I chose to throw in the towel. And after about eight or nine years, I just shot Hawaii Five-0, one episode, and I'm kind of making jokes on the set.

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And I remember one guy kind of sitting in the corner over there and I was like, Oh, he seems a little grumpy. I'm gonna go hang out with him. And, uh, you know, he's kind of overlooking everything, but not thinking twice and making jokes at him, make him feel good. And he basically was like, you know, Hey, you're really good. We'll see you next season. I was like, nah, bro, I'm one and done. I got to do this awesome episode. I'm very happy. Thank you. And he's like, no, I'm the executive producer. We'll see you next season. And I was like, no way. I get home, um, tell my parents things happen.

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Anyway, long story short, I'm kind of homeless at the time. And then for a few months, you know, kind of living on different people's couches, couch surfing here and there, found myself.

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The number one rule is like, you know, two things that go bad in three days, fish and house guests. So I was like, Oh, I gotta be awesome. The second night, you know, I'd sleep, I'd wake up super early, clean everything up and leave. They're like, Hey man, what happened? Where'd you go? I was like, Oh, I'm so busy. I got, I got, you know, I think I got a lot of things to do because I'd never wanted them to worry about me. You know, I was like, but my goal again was to like always, always be proactive, be ready and stay ahead of the game.

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And after about nine years of struggle and again, not having complete focus as to what I wanted. After being homeless, I cut everything out of my life that was toxic. That was bad. And I started to refine and filter out everything that wasn't helping me in my goal. And from there, you know, right after Hawaii Five-0, I got a two-year contract on days and about three months in, they call me back for Hawaii Five-0. Hey, we want you to be the main antagonist, you know, of seasons five and six.

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And it was kind of like for three years, I was flying back and forth from Hawaii, five old days are alive. How was Hawaii five? Oh, did you know? I mean, you're probably not even old enough. I'm I don't know. I'm I'm older than you and I don't think I'm the, did you, the original, like, did you study the original? Like how much, uh, how much knowledge was even required? Or was it honestly, like I, I, um, I knew nothing about the show. I just knew that it was like.

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a huge franchise. I mean, it was a very, very popular, everyone loved it was like, what the cool people do, you know, and like Alex Laughlin, Scott Conn, you got grace park and Daniel Day Kim. I love, I love them so much. Yeah. Um, but I didn't, I literally did one audition and I thought like, they're like, it's a big, you know, guest star role where you're the brother in law of Daniel Day Kim. I'm like, dude, the guy from the loss, this guy's a legend.

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And like I said, I really knew nothing of the show. I was just kind of going in. I was doing what I felt was right for the role and kind of came through fruition. Like I said, it kind of fell into my lap. One episode turned to another one, turned into another two, turned into three, turned into one, turned into 13 episode run on a three-year span and making relationships with Grace Park and Daniel A. Kim, whom I have the utmost respect for both of them. And...

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And that's the thing, like you said, like I would think like that snowballing and you, you, you take advantage of it. Like you mentioned with the executive producer, but getting on the shows like that with those names. Hollywood, I mean, it's like anything else, not watching us who, you know, right? Like, because you never know what projects they're going to do. They remember you, you make an impression. I mean, I have, I would just think that those kinds of things snowball is those relationships you build because I think with those relationships come more opportunities, right?

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You're absolutely right. I mean, cause in the end it's like, I always say, yes, the old thing is, it's, it's not what you know, it's who you know, but to add onto that, it's who you know and how you know them. Yeah. Because now that you know me, you know, but you can't really ask me of a favor as of yet, but by the end of this, we're probably going to hang out having Christmas dinner together, you know, splitting things. When I come to LA, we're going to have drinks and, or dinner or, you know, go surfing, whatever it is, whatever, you know.

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Yeah, I'm going to be playing the wife of a theme song. We're going to be. I'm going to have days for our lives theme song, you know, I'm going to bring my hourglass, you know, like, I have one actually hidden in the corner there with my days, 50 year anniversary. But that's awesome. But, uh, I mean, it comes down to who you know and how you know them. And the more better acquainted you are with people, the better you are as a person, the more people are willing to actually say, you know what? I don't mind vetting for you and you.

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using my name as a referral to help you along the way. And there has not been many people who've been willing to actually stick their name out or stick their neck out for me. But the very few people who have, I will have a lifelong debt to these people because Hollywood is a cutthroat business. And if I'm working, many of them feel that, many people feel that, you know what? That means you're taking food off my plate. But the way I see it is,

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because there's such few Asian Americans that are actually working in the entertainment industry. Like, we just got our first Marvel superhero, right, Shang-Chi? Yeah. We just got, you know, I'm upper thirties and I'm just seeing my very first role model who's a superhero. Like for me, it was very, very big thing. I dreamed of being a superhero my entire life. And so I never thought that I would be able to play one, let alone now I'm in the role of Nightwing.

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Batman's first protege at the DC in DC, you know, so, um, and I think those things like, again, I'm sorry, go ahead. No, and I think it's interesting. Like the, you know, I try to be self-aware and I try to like think about like, but you know, I mean, I, I mean, I'm just a white guy from South Carolina, like, but recognizing going, you know, like you said, growing up as a kid,

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you know, having an Asian background and like not seeing or having that reference point, it's like, that's a big deal, you know? And like, and then getting that opportunity to become, you know, a role model. I don't know. I just think that's cool. You know, I really appreciate that. And it does actually have like a psychological effect as a child because you don't ever see yourself as the hero. And you never really see yourself as.

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the hero of your own story. You always see yourself as kind of the sidekick or supporting role and it's not just you, it's how society views people of color. Yeah. And sadly it's like, well, you know, oh, there's the Asian guy and when you think of Asian, you immediately slap him with stereotypes, you know, the nerd, the mathematician, the martial artist.

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Now I'm great at all three of those things. You're smart. You're good looking and you're granted karate. But other than that, I don't want to stereotype you. No, but honestly, like, you know, just like, I bet you're great at, at those as well. Plus many more were multilayered people as well as any other race, you know? And it's like the more that you, you showcase that.

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on television, the more that you start to normalize other races and that we are just all bleeding the same color blood. That's right. You know, there were no different you and I, I'm just, I'm, I'm, uh, I'm the thumb on the hand and you're, you can be the pointer, you can be the middle, whatever you'd like. We're all in the same hand. Yeah. So, uh, all right.

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I waited 18 minutes to get into days of our lives. You know, I mentioned it earlier, but you know, my guilty or not, my not guilty pleasure. I know it's been a big deal for you. And it's funny, because I asked you, we talked pre-episode, you know, like, so where do you get the most recognition? You know, like, and you said the most excitement might come from people recognizing you for days.

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So multi-level question here, you know, first talk about in general. I'm curious, like the soap opera pers, you know, experience and the day's experience, uh, and I don't know, give us some, I don't know, grub or insight, uh, the soap opera world, you know, behind the scenes, man, I'll tell you what it is a very, very fast machine. If you can't keep up, you know, Drake Hoagiston always tells me.

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Your name is on paper and they can come off that door just as quick as it was put up. You know, you got to be ready. And, and for me, it was like, I got in there. Um, I remember auditioning for the role, like against thousands of other people. And I walked in and it was like, I was kind of like, not thinking. I was kind of like, you know what? I'm so focused. I just screwed up, uh, my opportunity in general hospital with Mark Teshner, Frank Valentini.

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I got the producers for the role and I just stumbled. I fell apart. I folded under the pressure. I wasn't ready. And again, in that failure, like any other, I sat, I stewed and I thought about it and how can I make myself better from these moments? Had the opportunity to meet with Marnie, head cast and director of days. And right off the first audition, she looked at me and said, we're bringing you straight to producers. So I was excited. I get to meet Greg Meng.

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And everyone knows the prolific Greg Mayne. Well, they call me back. They said, sorry, they change the script. We just want to not throw any curveballs at you. But here you go. I remember getting to the producer session and I saw a large group of black, black men. So a large group of Latin American, I saw a large group of Asian American men. I was like, man, it looks like everyone else is going for different roles. They were we were all I didn't know we were all battling for Paul. Ah, long story short, came down to me and two other actors, one black, one Latin and myself.

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They asked if I spoke Japanese. I said, yeah. They asked if I knew sports. I said, oh yeah. And this guy, Marnie met with me. Yeah, exactly. Marnie met with me on the day. I actually, I was driving into the lot, get in the Burbank studios and I was like, oh man, this is it, you know? Security guard, he's like, hey, how are you? Christopher Sean, here's my ID. And he's like, nope, your name's not on the list. You're not coming in. And I was like, wait, I'm supposed to be in there doing a network test.

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Yes, my name wasn't on the list. They're getting into the studios and it's like four o'clock in the morning. No one's answering their calls. My agent, my manager, known Marnie was like, I'll be right there. Save my day. And then I got on set and Freddie Smith was like my scene partner. And you know, I was like, dude, I don't know. I'm like, you know, I'm confident, but I'm nervous to be kissing you, Freddie. And I was like, and he's like, don't worry, man. I got you. And that was it. Like we, you know, we had my first kiss on camera.

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And I booked the role working with Freddie, very comfortable working with him. He was awesome. And then, you know, on, on the day set, this is where we start getting a little crazy on the day one, um, my very first scene is, uh, Sean Christian, the, the famous gorgeous Sean Christian doctor, uh, on days of a lives and Christopher Sean. So

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stage manager friend is calling us both out the set. She's like, Sean Christian, Christian, Christian, you both know your names, get out here and get ready. Like, oh man. And right before I go out, one of the actors, Daniel, I'm drawing a blank here. Daniel says to me, hey man, they don't care about the blah, blah, blah. They only care about the ooh la la. So I was like, oh, I gotta look pretty. So I'm trying to do the blue steel in my scene. I was like, I look like an idiot.

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I don't know how the fans enjoyed me at all. But yeah, there's that. And kind of like, you know, a couple, a year or two in the project, I remember being on set. I got to meet Deidre Hall and we related because we both have siblings that have Down syndrome. And, you know, she is one of the most loving and powerful presence. She has such a powerful, she's queen bee, they call her.

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right Queen Beyoncé because she just really understands that she's been she has the most time on camera than any other actor in Hollywood. That's why in one of the reasons she got her star on the wall Hollywood Walk of Fame I mean she's incredible she's the she used to ride elephants stand on elephants and do circus shows and tap dance and she was a superhero and Idria Hall everybody you know round of applause for her we love her working with her she was amazing I remember

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though being in hair and makeup, this is where everything was at. I call it the watering hole, because everyone comes and everyone talks about what's going on in their days. And Drake Hogan comes in and I just have the utmost respect for this gentleman. And this is prior to me finding out that I was gonna be his son on the show. And we're hanging out and talking, talking, talking. He's talking, talking, talking, and I'm loving it. But, you know, some people are like, oh, Drake talks forever.

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And I was like, you know, so I get a call from stage manager and they're like, Hey, Christopher Sean, we need you up front. I'm like, excuse me, Drake, one quick second. I run over and they're like, Oh man, so sorry. You know, sometimes some people can, and I was like, is this literally the only reason why you called me out? I mean, you called me out to stop me from having conversation with this legend. And they were like, what were you just trying to help you? And I was like, thank you, but no, thank you. And I ran back in and he was like, everything. I was like, yeah, it's just a misunderstanding. So anyway, where were you? And he's telling me about his days at a New York Yankees.

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Tell me about like, you know, seven brides is seven sons and seven. I mean, all of the stories for everyone listening that might know him by his, his, uh, his day's name. Who are we talking about? I apologize. John black. Yes. John black. Yes. Man. BD legend himself. Uh, the white box. I love him. The silver Fox. Excuse me. Um, gorgeous.

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double O agent. He was also the one who was like, read this book. It helped me find my character, the born identity. Oh, wow. And I read, I read it. I read the whole book front the back. I love this so much. My lady got me the entire series. I got all five, four or five books, uh, hidden over here in my, my bookshelf. That's great. But yeah, man, like every day, me and, and, and John Black, Drake Hoagiston, we would sit in his dressing room and we would just, I would just talk.

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or hours prior to actually going to set. And we would just relate. He was really a father figure to me. Great, great man. Which character or actor was most like their real person in real life? Is anyone like almost playing themselves? Yeah, that's a great question, man. I always wondered that, because some of these guys, you know.

25:27
So pop so bars maybe get like a bad rap sometimes but like some of them like I just imagine them. They have to act like this has to be them in real life. Like I don't know. You know, it's funny is like each person is a little different. Like, um, John Aniston, I'll tell you a little story. I don't know if I should, you know, I'm going to tell you the story by John Aniston. Yes. When I first, when I first met him, he was, he was, yeah, I was like, hi, pleasure to meet you, sir. Like respect your work. And he's like, ah,

25:57
What are you doing the show? And I was like, oh man, he's tough. You know, I was like, all right, I play, you know, Paul Narita. I'm the home record of Sonny and Will. And I tell you a joke. And he goes on to tell me this joke that I was like, OK, sure. The joke was not family friendly. Let's just say that. And I'm like, who is this guy? He's kind of chuckling. He's like, have a great day. And I'm like, what the heck?

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So completely contrary to what I thought he was, like this very upright regal man. He was telling dirty jokes in the back, being hilarious by the way. And I was like, what a way to break the ice, what a way to make someone feel comfortable. What an awesome experienced actor. Yes, I just remember how many times, and I know he's now passed and I do not know, a lot of these guys I admit, I knew some of them if they were like this gigantic stars, like obviously Marlena.

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But their acting name, but Stefano. Like how many times was Stefano gonna, you know, how many different ways was he gonna come back? Oh man, he was the phoenix. He kept rising, he kept rising, man. Who's the bad guy now? I mean, who's like the bad bad guy? Is there one? That's a great question. I think Stefan, oh, DiMera is the new bad guy. Yeah, right.

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trying to be. To be entirely honest, I'm not following it as much as I should. Excuse me, the more I watch it, the more I'm like, I need to be back. I miss them so much. Which is one of the reasons, excuse me, why I jumped back to Beyond Salem. I was like, I gotta get that itch filled. What is Beyond Salem? Let's talk about that project. What's happening there? That's Peacock, Peacock app. And on the Peacock app.

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They began streaming the Beyond Salem. It's a spin-off series of days of our lives. And there, Beyond Salem chapter two, we had a whole slew, like a diamond heist and a kidnapping of John Black and a brainwashing of Patch and John and Patch. And everyone's trying to save the day while Bowen hopes.

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love never dies they're brought back to the series and bow and hope i mean christian alphonseau peter reckel the most probably one of the arguably one of the most beautiful couples in television history like amazing chemistry amazing talent um and they were like we're done with soaps and yet they're back doing the peacock at beyond salem t so you know if you're a huge fan of bone hope which i don't any soap up every soap show if you're so fan

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you know, Bow and Hope. Like if you're a fan of theirs, I would say come out and watch the show on the Peacock app. Is the soap opera world just like its own world, like comparative to, I mean, cause you've got daily episodes, like it's just, I mean, it's just, it's a soap, you know, like just the amount of content and like everything else. I mean, is it, from a business perspective, just as unique as it seems? You're absolutely right.

29:14
You're absolutely right. Cause I had a buddy who works in Disney animation. His name is Frank Nittle. Um, love, love, love Frank. He's a family friend of ours and Frank works, like I said, into Disney since way back in Tarzan. That was his first project and he's been, um, a part of Disney since then. And. You know, he gave us a tour of the Disney animation studios where, you know, this is where they created every Disney animated movie starting with.

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Snow White and on to we were at the time we were there they had the secret project which was Raya and the Last Dragon and Adele B. Lim's working there and we're kind of walking around seeing Frozen 2 everywhere the artists working on you know finalizing every little little bits here and there it was amazing to see but Frank he's around this he's been on the projects for years and he's a huge Dayz fan and I was like hey man because you're giving my family this opportunity I'd like to give you the opportunity to have a tour of NBCLog.

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days of our lives. And he's kind of stoic and I'm laughing. I'm like, what do you, I thought you'd be excited. He's like, believe me, I'm very excited. I'm keeping my composure. This is my mom's favorite show. This is my favorite show. He's like, Oh my God, thank you so much. I'm like, cool. So, you know, he gets there and I was like, what was your first thought? How did you feel? Who did you run into? And he was like, I saw so many of the stars just walking the hall. So he was like, I, I, I knew him. I knew and he can go, he's like the almanac of soaps. Like, he knows everything.

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And he kind of went on and on and on. But he was the one thing he did say was I can't believe how fast paced it was. And I can't believe how the sets, they seem so small. Like on the show, it seems like this huge, but our imaginations create this whole world behind the small set that it is. Right. And, um, so he was like, I didn't realize how small the sets were, but I was able to get on the set and just kind of live every little moment and breathe in.

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Uh, you know, the, the Mara mansion and, and, and the, the, the Brady pub and all those great, those great, great places. And how's, uh, so you, so you do get is recognized for that than anything else. And I'm sure like soap fans are just like different fans. Right. Are they just like, so passionate? They're the most passionate fan base. And honestly, like I, I, you know, I did star Wars and I was a

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I was a part of Star Wars Resistance, I did Star Wars Visions, I just recently did Star Wars Celebration, the largest Star Wars convention in the United States. Huge, amazing. But the love that I get when I do soap opera events, the love that I get anytime I'm posting things from the soap fans. They're like, I've been a fan from day one, I've been a fan for 56 years and I know this and this and when you came on, I knew you were going to do great.

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You know, it's like, and they follow my career, they still reach out to me. I have a long list of people that I can thank that have supported me through my, when I left the show and had been there for me when I came back, you know? They're amazing. They're the best fan base that I've ever found in the entertainment industry. How's, you know, you've been in the business for a while now, you've had...

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at the peaks and valleys, you've seen a lot of things. I think you're, you know, I think maybe hitting your stride, maybe, like your popularity, your opportunities, hopefully are growing. We'll get a little bit more into that. But it's interesting to me, you've kind of come up to the business while social media has kind of taken off, you know? I'm curious from a business and marketing perspective, the impact that you have or may haven't seen

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you know, as it relates to the power of social media and maybe your career and like how you leverage it or, you know, all those things. I'd just be curious. I think that's a great question. And I think that absolutely, you know, social media absolutely correlates to the entertainment industry because social media is marketing. It's direct to consumer marketing. So if you're not taking advantage of that, if you're not seeing the value in that as a business person, then you're absolutely missing the trend, what's popular, what is...

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the new means of marketing. I continue to say that because again, like, if I were to be going up for a role and I've got a million followers and then Ryan Alford comes in and he's got 10 million followers, we're both amazing, we're both awesome, he's super buff, sexy, gorgeous, got a voice to kill. And then me, I'm trying to compete, but I only have a million followers and I'm almost as good as him. Who are they gonna choose?

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course they're gonna choose Ryan because again those are 10 million eyes that are gonna be going to their project if and when he were to post on his social media for their project so it does sadly in my mind it does play a large part I mean even sometimes in breakdowns when you're getting auditions now it'll say social media following a plus not important but a plus why would they put that on there if it wasn't something that they were thinking about yeah right so sadly it

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play a major and integral part into the success, but it can be sadly, or it could be something that you're well aware of. And you can take advantage of it and do the hustle just like anyone else. You got to hustle for what you want in life. Yeah. And if they're telling you this is what they want, well, then get ahead of the game and start working, developing, get on it. Like I'm posting every single day and my stories, you know, I post every single day because that is a 24 hour window where I know that

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That's it. You have to come to my page to see what I'm doing within that 24 hours, or you're never going to see it again. Yeah. So that's going to continue to keep that, that, that 90% retention rate that Instagram, Snapchat, um, and, and whatever other companies that do stories will continue to, to, uh, to keep that high retention rate and retention to, uh, interactions to so forth. Those are very important facets as well. Like you have to start getting, you have to start getting like,

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collaborating with people like yourself who are very successful, who've got a very, very strong fan following and you're unique because you reach out in so many different areas. You cast a wide net. It's very smart what you do and how you do it. You keep the fans interested, you continue to grow your fan base and you collaborate with people that you find interesting. And because you're passionate about it, you're sharing that passion and people love you not for the business that you run. People love you for you. And then

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They'll love whatever you decide to pass on to them because it's you, you're Ryan, you're amazing. And you started off and you were so loving to me and I was like, I love this guy. Immediately I was like, you're cool as heck. You sold, I'm sold. So whatever it is you post, I wanna comment on because you've taken my heart, you're a great person. And you understand the business. And that's what social can do for you. It creates that opportunity. Like you said, it can be a detriment or you can look at it as a lever for opportunity because.

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You know, you investing time and all that, you got your fans following you, but you never know what producer is watching. You never know. Like you said, what audition you're going to get in and Hey, this guy's active on social media. He's a great actor. He's talented, but he's also going to bring us, you know, some awareness on top of a project. Maybe it's not as big as like some gigantic movie or something, but it's a leverage point. So it's smart of you to kind of leverage it and use it for what it can be. And that's what I coach people on is like.

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You know, use it, you know, it's like, it's there, like we can, you know, bitch about it all day, but like, it's, it's an opportunity point for, for people. And you know, people look at it and they say, Oh, why are you bitching about it? Like what's, what's the main problem? Well, you know, back in my day, I had a journal and no one was allowed to read it. Now the internet is your journal and you expect everyone to read it. Well, so what, you know, the only constant in life is change. Everything's constantly changing.

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always, even after like after saying that sentence, you know, my inner, my innards, my outer, everything's changing. So keep up. Yeah. And also it's like, if I got, again, you know, if I got a million followers, even if I have a hundred followers and I have a particular niche and you know what? I'm like, I love this, whatever this may be.

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You can A, have a community of people to hang out with and talk about that will enjoy that same thing you do. And then now you have friends in social media, you're not so lonely. You have people that are accessible, celebrities that are accessible. I mean, you reached out to me via Instagram and I then researched you and I was like, why in the world would this super successful person reach out to me? But basically like it is one of those things where, you know, celebrities are accessible. Yeah. You can build communities.

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Um, if you need spare change and you have a hobby, you have the opportunity to then make a little cash by selling it to friends rather than knocking door to door. Like again, there's so many opportunities that can be found if you just aren't afraid of change. Yeah. That is a big point. Now have you gotten on tick tock? Yeah. I suck at it, but I'm on it.

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You know, the difference between Instagram is like pictures can say a thousand words and videos say those thousand words, but tick tock is like, all right, we're taking it to the next and now we're going to dance and everything. And it's like, I don't dance, man. I'm not a dancer either, but you know, you gotta, you gotta change. Yeah. But you know what? I have the tick tock. I've been posting on it. I've been trying to interact with people and, uh, you know, it's, it is one of the things where it changes here. It's inevitable. Yeah. And I'm on it.

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I'm up to like 250 followers compared to my IG. Yeah. But I'm having fun on it now. I can't stop watching these videos on Tik TOK. It's so cool. Well, that's a whole, it's a whole nother, uh, time wasters. Like you go down the vortex. It's like the swiping vortex on like, Whoa, I thought it was 40 seconds. It's been 40 minutes. What happened on the rabbit hole? Yeah. And that's, that's, I mean, honestly, like that type of engagement.

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That's what I hope for when people are watching shows I'm on like Days of Our Lives. You got an hour a day where people can watch and be like, I know I'm gonna watch for an hour. And my problems for the day are gonna dissipate. I'm gonna sit and enjoy, get lost. And then after that, it's like, all right, back to cooking dinner or laundry or whatever it may be, back to the errands of the day. But you know, that's one thing I absolutely love about Days of Our Lives is we always had that time where we can share an hour with the fan base. And I feel like that may be why the fans are just so.

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um, loyal because, you know, for us, it's a livelihood. It's a life, it helps us live our lives and do something more passionate about them. It also helps them live their lives. And again, that symbiotic relationship is pretty awesome. So what are, um, what are some projects in the work? What's a, what's a day in the life of a Christopher Sean like? Well, day in the life, um,

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Before I'd say sporadic, it's crazy. It's now I've kind of gotten it down to like, uh, like I said, I'm adulting pretty hard now. So I wake up, um, I immediately sit up. I go right into meditation because you're kind of in that alpha state where you, your mind can still create. And if we're all just balls of energy floating around and on a, spinning around a sun that's flying through space in the middle of nothing surrounding other balls of energy. It's like,

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What is life really? You know, like, make the best of it as you can. So I just continue to put out there what I want in my life. You know, and my mantra is I am a world-famed, successful, high-paid and abundantly working, happy, loyal Academy Award-winning lead actor on camera and in voiceover. And what I will give back, this is what most people miss, is what I will give back is my heart, my passion, lessons on how to be better. I will better every person that comes around me that truly wants to better themselves. That's my job to help them as well.

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Amen. So I love that. I need my sound effects. Ding. Yeah. But it's that, you know, it's like a lot of times like, uh, you can't just continue to take cause then you become gluttonous. Then you become lethargic. Then life is just nothing matters. But in giving you find just as much love and passion and giving. So, and that continues, they say to, to, to give and not receive breaks the cycle of love, the Dalai Lama.

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Because basically if I give you a gift and it makes me feel good and you want to give me a gift and I'm like, no, no, I can't please. No, it's like, no, thank you. I will accept that wholeheartedly because if I don't allow you to feel the love of giving, then I've broken that cycle. Now it's awkward. Now it's weird. Now you don't want to come over for Christmas and now we can't have dinner. But, uh, so, so, you know, I, uh, I wake up and I meditate and I put out what I want. I see my thoughts for what they are. Like, cause

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We literally will always have random thoughts. Probably listening to me now talking, you're like, hmm, what am I gonna have for dinner? You know, whatever it may be, right? Or hmm, we're running low on time or whatever. Like thoughts are naturally happened. That's just, well, we have to be aware of them, but our thoughts will keep us in line as long as we have a mantra that will continue to guide us to what our goal is. But again, you just have to kind of be aware of your thoughts and through meditation, you become aware that you are not your thoughts. Your thoughts are just

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visuals that you see on the train of life. And you're just kind of watching those thoughts go by. And the more that you allow them to affect you, the more that you can affect other people in a negative way. So for me, meditation's key. Wake up, start a day of meditation, go right, have my breakfast, go right to the gym, work out, hit the weights, hit the jump rope. I did it, the more you know campaign with the star, the more you know. Did you know jumping rope can burn 10 to 15 calories every minute?

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the more you know, you know, like, uh, get out there and get in shape. Uh, but I've been applying that now more recently. And after the gym, I come home and it's right to emails. It's right to social media, whatever work I need to do. I'll, I'll either, um, you know, if I have, if I have auditions, if I have voiceover additions, I start knocking them out immediately that night, Monday through Friday, I try and find time for my lady. Um, her language of love is quality time.

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So for me, what are you passionate about? Well, she's passionate about horror films. She loves the scary movies. And I'm a big Disney guy. I'm a big like, I'm like, you know, Pokemon and anime, like, but she loves those horror films. So I'm like, so now I've been avidly watching horror films one a day with her, you know? So I'll spend a little bit of time cut out. And so now I'm kind of knocking out two birds with one. I'm studying acting, I'm studying cinema. I'm studying performance. I'm studying the way they're made. And I'm also...

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hanging out with my lady, doing something she loves, right? So you're ready to be the next Michael Myers is what you're saying. Hey, there you go. You got it. But yeah, man. And then after that, it's like, you know, I read, uh, I've got like different books that I read self-help books and whether it's like self-improvement or fantastic fantasy books, uh, like Ender's game or, um,

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comic books to study a night wing and whatever it may be. I enjoy reading and then late at night, I'm playing video games, man. You catch me on the PlayStation 5 playing some video games with some friends talking smack. You're not going to beat this. You suck. I got you. You're nothing. All right. Good job, man. You beat me again. Let's try again. Sorry, son. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Yeah. You think he's a friend. He's 11 years old and you've like, he's crying.

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Cause the night wing Chris Rashad is like beat him up on fortnight or something. So I got you. Yeah. I listen, I'll buy you a doll later. I love you. Send you an autograph. Oh, so the article, you know, the hourglass. That's in it. It seconds is a timer from the next time we got to kick your ass. Oh, that's so

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funny. So how are the opportunities these days? I mean, you getting is the phone ringing more, the emails coming more, like are you seeing more and more opportunities? Yeah, quantity and quality. You know, finally now like I'm seeing Asian American actor, Japanese American. I mean I can count like in my entire 12 years of trying to be an actor it was like I had two opportunities for HAPA roles. That was it. Now it's like

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Asian American, Asian American. Sadly, because everything's trying to be so politically correct, it's like looking for a Chinese American, looking for a Korean American, not mixed. So I still miss out. It's still kind of a detriment. But at the same time, the more that I see Asian American faces on camera, the more opportunities for them and opening that culture. I'm still a part of that culture. So, you know, things will still trickle my way. But again,

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quantity and quality. Like I feel that I'm finally going up for series regulars. I'm finally going up for leads in movies. I'm touching on that. I just booked the lead of a Netflix animated feature that will come out in 2024. I'm very excited about that. Very, very excited about that. And my entire life, I grew up wanting these opportunities and now they're here and I'm so grateful. Gratitude is everything I've found.

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You know, everything is gratitude to the fans, to the work, to the people that took care of me and mentored me, to the people that were willing to put their names out, to the fact that you even wanted to speak with me. You know, who am I in the world of Ryan? Like, I'm, I'm, you get a minnow in this ocean that is Ryan's intelligence and background. Like for me, I'm lucky, so thank you. And again, it's everything, man, it is. No, man, it's my pleasure having Christopher Sean on the Radcast.

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Is uh any dream roles like if we got anything, you know You said you sound like a gold guy like is there anything like any I don't know bucket list or you take them as they come Are you like man? Yeah, you know what I got a vision board Okay, you know like a vision board is kind of like a goal like where you want to go But I'm not too specific because I said I would my whole life like the first time like we're going to San Diego Comic-Con literally right after this interview I got

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The person that just called me, he's like, Hey, we're out front. We're going. Where are you at? We're holding up the Comic-Con bus here on the Radcast. No man. You know, Comic-Con can wait. I'm here with Ryan on Radcast, baby. Uh, no, but honestly, like my goal, I told my lady, we went six years ago. We were in a motel, spent $300 and a small cigarette burn roaches on the wall, sticky floor that your drains wouldn't drain.

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And I was like, baby, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, but you know, this is something I've always wanted. I always wanted to, and she's like, it's a memory. It's amazing. I'm not bougie. You're bougie. Not me. I'm like, you're right. I'm the bougie. She's like, this is an amazing memory and she will never forget that. And I said, I promise you, I will be back here on stage having a panel of my own when people will come and want to see me. Six years later, we're there. Now that was a very specific goal.

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And I worked really hard for it, but overall the goal was to be a superhero, not just specifically Marvel, not specifically DC, not a Japanese superhero. Like it was just a superhero. And now again, one of the most coolest, one of the coolest, sexiest, charismatic superheroes out there. You know, Batman was very stoic and tough. And then Robin who grows up to become nightly charming, optimistic, like

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Basically Nightwing is Batman if he was raised with good parents, you know And I get to be this guy. I'm the first Asian American person to portray Nightwing. Holy cow. That's huge so again, you know, it's like my goals are If you if you aim low you'll hit It Every time I had on my vision board most Emmy nominated actor. I mean nominated shows and we were nominated

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for a primetime Emmy on Star Wars Resistance. And we were nominated on Days of Realize and I was pre-nominated from performances as Paul Narita. But I never won. Why? Because I aimed low and I hit. So now I got in my mantra, I'm an Academy Award winning lead actor on camera and in voiceover. You know, the goal is to continue to put out exactly what I want. And if I miss, that's fine. I'm a lot higher than where I would have hit.

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if I aimed low and I'm happy with that. So my goals again are to, to be the number one on cast list, the number one where I can again, be role models to people who didn't have them be the number one where I can show what it means to have a positive and optimistic mindset and guide people in a loving way compared to some people have pretty heavy egos. I won't name names, but I've worked with some people who have taken away from my time to perform because they felt that it was necessary for them.

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to do 10 takes when I was only given one opportunity, you know, one shot, that's it. I'm sorry, we're out of time. Can you guys please go straight to tape? Yeah, I mean, we've practiced it knowing this is gonna happen, hoping it wouldn't, but we prepared for it. So, you know, like I won't do that to people. I won't lead by that example. I will always lead with a positive and righteous choice. It may be harder, it may take longer, but that's my goals, those are my goals. I love it, brother, man.

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You've been a refreshing, pleasant interview in a lot of ways. And I really appreciate you coming to the show. I can't wait to have Christmas dinner and to hit the strip in Hollywood. Maybe I'll, wherever they're putting your star down here in the next few months, right? Thanks, man. I appreciate it, man. When the star is down, I'm gonna be looking at him like, and to Ryan Alford having me on the show. Where are you, man? There you are.

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I'm gonna have you on my arm. Get up here with me. But for real, let's keep it going. I want to stay in touch and definitely get up when I'm out your direction. Hit me up, man. I might be able to pull some strings for a days of our lives tour. Who knows? Hit me up. Don't don't don't get me excited, man. Don't get me excited. Chris, where can everybody keep up with you? Oh, Instagram, please. Yes, I'm on TikTok.

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Christopher Sean, but Instagram is where I'm mostly located. I will reply to almost every DM at Mr. Christopher Sean. One word, M-R Christopher Sean, S-E-A-N. Thank you for the love, man. I really appreciate having me. My pleasure, man. Also, I'll be at San Diego Comic Con with Gotham Knights. That's a project coming out on my birthday, October 25th. It is Gotham Knights, Batman is killed in our project, and his protege's Nightwing, Red Hood, Robin, and Bat.

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girl, the amazing Babs. We have to take over and protect Gotham City. You can also find me on Beyond Salem Chapter 2 and Peacock app. We got a movie coming in 2024 and another project in 2023.

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And a lot more. Check out the Radcast. Check out the Radcast with Ryan, baby. Yes, we're going to have Christopher Sean plastered everywhere. We'll get your SEO numbers up, if nothing else. Brother, I really appreciate it. We're going to stay in touch. I know we will. And you got big things coming for you. I know you do. Thank you, brother. Have a great day. Thank you. Hey, guys, you know where to find us, theradcast.com. Search for Nightwing. You'll find all the highlight clips from today from Christopher Sean. You know where I'm at, at Ryan Alford in all the platforms.

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Go follow this guy on TikTok, get his skittish numbers up. We'll see you next time on Radcast.