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It wasn't until they saw my hand move that they would change their plans. And I'm glad that they did, because come to find out if they didn't see my hand move, I would have probably been burned alive that day. I believe we live in a world where people have the ability to make choices. We have free will. And

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choices have consequences. Epic is an acronym. The E stands for embrace challenges. And then we have the P which is provide perspective. And then we have the I which is implement change. And then we have the C which is celebrate. Celebrate your story. Celebrate the fact that you're here, that you're alive, that you have another day to live. And out of that celebration, we're serving others. You're listening to the Radcast. If it's radical, we cover it.

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Here's your host, Ryan Alford.

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Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to the latest edition of the rad radcast and a little extra rad there beginning and you know, I felt that the need to today because we've got a radical story that I'm excited to tell. Welcome to the show international speaker, bestselling author, Cody Byrns. What's up, brother? Hey, man. Just you are, you are. I'm glad to be here with you. Hey man. We're excited to have you. Um, you know, sometimes we have guests that.

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You know, like they've got a great brand. They're talking about certain things, but maybe the story's so, so, but I think you have an amazing story of inspiration and just overall radicalness that, you know, I'm excited for all of our audience to hear.

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Thank you, man. Yeah. Um, I, it's quite an interesting story. I'm an interesting character. So I hope the listeners and viewers enjoy it. Well, I'm sure they will. Um, let's just start right down the path, man. I want to just tee it up for you. Um, let's talk about Cody Byrns. Let's talk about your background and you know, what's led you, you know, to, you know, why and how you're speaking today, how you're guiding people, how you're inspiring people, um, but let's just talk about that story, man.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So my story kind of begins like everyone's story back in childhood and I had an amazing family, still very close with all of them today. And I grew up in Southern Indiana.

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right in the middle of a cornfield. And so you kind of learn and find ways to entertain yourself. And I remember as a youngster, my family took me to a circus. Now you're wondering what the heck is this got to do with anything? Going somewhere. My mind went down the carny route in a hurry. Yeah, going down the carny route. Here we are, brace yourself folks. So I go to the circus and they...

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My family was, you know, they was enjoying it. Obviously I was, it was the first time I ever went. But there was one act that really stood out to me more than any of them. And it was this juggler. It was down there doing all these tricks. And I remember myself wanting to learn how to do that. And so as soon as I left the circus, I started practicing. Taught myself how to juggle three balls. A few years later, I would go to a children's camp. And I seen this speaker up on the platform.

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Like, because there's activities during the day, like to swim and so forth. But at night, they had a camp speaker. And so all of us kids, we were there in this big auditorium, speakers on stage, sharing this message and message of hope. But at the same time he was doing that, he was juggling. And so I'm like, get out of here. This is, this is cool to see how the two mix so well together. And something on the inside of me in that moment said that this is what I'm called to do.

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And so from a young age, I had a passion to give hope to people and doing it along with juggling and comedy and finding creative ways to get the message across. So I pursued that and time I got out of high school, I went to a ministry training program in Rockford, Illinois, and I got my pastoral credentials. At the same time of being a pastor, I work with children.

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back, go backward on that. I work with kids, I was a kids pastor. The same time working with kids on a weekly basis, I got to travel the country to motivational speaking, and using juggling and comedy, spoken kids camps, conferences, all kinds of fun stuff. It was really starting to take off internationally. Up until the point of being 23 years old, I had spoken to 1000s of children across the nation, and as well as teenagers and adults, but my audience more so at the time was with children.

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And so, and then in May of 2013, my life took a drastic turn. And I was stopped at a red light on the highway. It was a Friday afternoon in Southern Indiana. And at this red light, everything goes black almost as if I didn't exist. And everything I share with people, it's strictly from witnesses, police reports, and the first responders, because I don't remember a thing. I just remember driving that morning.

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And I don't, I technically don't even remember being at the red light, but I was. And what I'm told is that I was rear ended by a refrigerator box truck. It did not stop. And so on impact of the box truck hitting my, I was in a Dodge Durango on impact of it hitting that my Dodge blows up into flames and it pushed my car through the intersection into an embankment. And when the first responders came to the scene by the looks of it, they said,

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it's a fatality. So they had already called the coroner and assumed I was dead. And it wasn't until they saw my hand move that they would change their plans. And I'm glad that they did because come to find out if they didn't see my hand move, I would have probably been burned alive that day. But there's a powerful message in that because I think there's a lot of people in today's world, COVID world especially, that have found themselves at stoplights.

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And those stoplights, maybe the career is no longer what it used to be, or maybe there's, you know, death in the family, or divorce, who knows, the list goes on where life, as we know it, suddenly comes to a complete stop. And we find ourselves in difficult circumstances, trapped in the heat of life, and I certainly was. And for those that are interested, there are images online, Google, they type in my name, there's photos and videos where it shows

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the actual wreck, the sheriff's department took hundreds of pictures that day. And I'm inside this burning vehicle. And it's quite remarkable to really kind of look back and see what I did survive. But all that to say, there's people that have found themselves in tough situations and no different than my hand, that little bit of movement, it changed everything for me, and I wonder what a little bit of movement can do for many individuals in their life. Maybe they have found themselves trapped.

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but I dare everyone to take a little bit of movement and see what may happen in their life. And it made a tremendous difference for me. So they got me out of that car, took me a good hour. They then put me on a stretcher. They live flighted me to the burn unit in Indianapolis, Indiana, where I was put into a coma on full life support. 40% of my body severely burned.

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My face did have second degree, which really that part isn't a severe burn. Second degree doesn't scar. But then I had third and fourth degree burns. I never knew there was such a thing as a fourth degree burn, but they exist. And what that does, it burns through all your fat cells down to bone and muscle. And in some cases it requires an amputation. I had a torn ligaments, broken vertebrae. I mean, all kinds of things happened. I had a blood infection in the unit. A lot, a lot went down, but as I said, I was in a coma.

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And I was there for three weeks, um, in a medically induced coma. And it wasn't until then I would kind of come to and realize what had happened to me and I will pause there because I can keep rattling on, but I want to let you, uh, chime in. No man, I somewhat still unpacked there. Uh, the, the impact from me, both literally and physically, but I do want to start, you know,

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It led me to this question, Cody, and I don't know if you've been asked this. I mean, you're obviously a man of faith, I believe is that accurate statement. You've been a pastor, you work with children. And when something like that happens, when you've been helping children, you're guiding children, you're involved, you know, God's guiding you in some way, right, or a lot, or every way, did it make you question, did you ever question your faith coming out of that?

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situation. Oh man, you better, you better believe it. And, you know, I think that, I think we're all human. I mean, at the end of the day, we're all human and I don't care if you're, if you've got a pastoral degree behind you. At the end of the day, we're not perfect. We have our humanity that just comes through. And so naturally I wondered why. And I think

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As a result of all of this, my faith has grew stronger, but it took time to get to that place. I actually have two younger brothers, and one of them was on the verge of just saying, all right, screw it, I'm becoming an atheist. You know, how can I love and God allow my brother that's trying to do everything right, be scarred and burned? And I had an interesting conversation with a guy that was, he served in Vietnam, and him and I, a pastor in Illinois connected us both.

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And we had a great phone conversation. I've since met the guy many a times and had him on my podcast show. And he shared with me the story of when he was in Vietnam, he went to throw a hand grenade. And when he tried to throw it, a sniper had shot it before he could release it.

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and it blew up all over his body. His face was scarred, he had fingers amputated, and for years he battled with suicidal thoughts and depression and wondered why would God allow him to be burned and scarred. And it wasn't until he was on TV years later that a lady would ask him on live television, she said, his name is Dave Reaver, by the way. She said, Dave, do you know why God would allow you to be burned and scarred? And he said, no, I don't. And he told me, he said, Cody, when she asked me that, it frustrated me. Oh, it angered me.

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And he said, but her words changed, changed my life. And she said, Dave, you know, God did not do this to you. God doesn't do evil, but he allowed it to happen because he could trust you with the scars. And that statement changed everything. And I kind of look at that story in the same light is that I believe God did not do this to me. I believe we live in a world where people have the ability to make choices. We have free will. And

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You know, our choices have consequences, either good or bad. And the driver of the truck that day, he walked away fine. He walked away fine. I, on the other hand, was, in the beginning, left for dead. Scarred and mangled, my life has now drastically changed because of this man's poor decisions. And so I had to practice forgiveness in that. But it wasn't God's fault. It was this man. But at the same time,

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God has taken one of the worst incidents in my life and he's turned it around for my good, but it boiled down to me making that choice to say that I'm not going to allow this to affect me negatively. And that's powerful because I had to realize I can't change. Can't change what happened to me. The only thing I can change is what I do today. That's what makes the difference. And so...

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You know, I could really dive in deep on that, but I don't wanna. No, I think you answered it. And I think it's, I asked that, I ask everything, you know, has a purpose and a reason. And it's because I know there are people out there that have probably might be relating to the story that for themselves and others. And, you know, I think it's important to hear perspective for how people kind of got over that moment. And I think you encapsulized it perfectly. Talking with Cody Burns, international speaker.

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bell-sailing author. So Cody, let's transition a bit. You know, you go through something that no one can ever imagine going through. You battle the natural, I'm sure, the inconceivable amount of grief, combined with, you know, like getting over it, and then coming back to this place of deciding you wanna make something, you know, out of this. Let's talk about that period and kind of where you went from

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uh, you know, recovery to now, um, today, maybe. Yeah. Uh, so as I had shared, I was in that coma full life support for three weeks and coming to was, was quite difficult. Um, but I remember my family being there and more specifically my mother. And she told me everything that went down, Cody, you know, you've been severely burned, he was hit by a driver that failed to stop at a red light.

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your recovery, it's not gonna be an easy journey, but no matter what, don't lose sight of your vision. And those words stuck with me and they still do to this day. And I think about how a lot of us in life, it's important that we have individuals to remind us of what is most important, to not lose sight of our vision. And I needed that reminder because it was certainly tempting to give up and play the victim. And there's many people in today's world that they may have every right.

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I certainly did, but my mom, she believed that there was something greater on the other side of her son. And just as she believed in me, I believe in people today that no matter what life has brought them, there is hope and there is a better tomorrow. But it took time. It took time. I had my moments where one day I'm grateful to be alive, and the next day I wonder why, and emotions are all over the place. My parents, you know, they're Christian people.

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The funniest example is one minute he's in the waiting room, he's praying and asking God to heal his son. The next minute he's cursing, he's mad, he's irritated that he couldn't be there for his son that day at that red light, but can't control certain things. Things just happen. But I was in the burn unit for a total of two and a half months, and then I had to go to a rehabilitation center. I had to relearn to walk, had to relearn to use my hands, all the basics.

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I was in there for another six weeks. Then I had to do almost two years of nonstop outpatient physical and occupational therapy, where I could just get to a point where I could be somewhat self-sustainable again. And many surgeries, my fingers, they wanted to amputate three of my fingers, actually in the burn unit. And as I had shared with you guys earlier, I'm a juggler before all this went down. And so my family, they would said,

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No, do whatever he can to save his fingers. He juggles. And of course you could imagine the surgeon's face. I'll be like, really? You're kidding me. I'm trying to save this guy's life. So, you're worried about his juggling skills. Yeah, you're worried about his juggling skills. And yeah, so they were able to save them. They don't move like they used to, but I have adapted and I make the most of what I can do. And that in itself is a message, but it was a lot, a long road to recovery. But through all of that, I learned a lot

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myself in life and I think pain is one of our greatest teachers and one of the most Empowering moments for me was whenever I was in it and stay rehab I had gotten this garbage bag full of get well cards from all these kids that I had spoken to prior a couple years prior to the wreck and it was Oklahoma City and Everyone's get well get well Cody and cuz news about this wreck spread like wildfire

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social media picked it up, TV shows. And so I started gathering, getting this following on social media, my family's posting things. And so people were watching my response to this tragedy. And these children, these children were watching me and it dawned on me, I was like, oh my gosh, all these little lies, they're watching, they're watching me. And you know, at the end of the day, we can all talk a good talk when life is going great.

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We can preach a good message. It sounds good. It tickles people's ears. But then when tragedy strikes and rubber hits the road, our faith, our message, everything that we're about is put to the test. And my faith in that moment, just as I shared earlier, it was put to the test. But I had to practice what I preach. And more so than words, our actions is what makes the difference. And so I had to think to myself, what am I going to act out in this moment?

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How am I going to be an example to these little lies? Children watch us. They watch us. We can tell them to do something, but at the end of the day, it's how we're acting. They learn from our actions. And so I had to practice what I preach, and that hit home with me, and still does to this day. And so what example do I want to set? Why am I doing the very thing that I'm doing to begin with? Why am I speaking? Why was I speaking before? It was to give hope.

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It was to give hope and what better opportunity to give hope than to utilize such a traumatic event to my advantage. What do you further share that message all the more? What do you think? And I'm excited to get to, you know, where you've gone with that is what do you think differentiates people that become and embrace the victim versus people that become and embrace the other side of.

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Taking a choice and putting action in their own hand. I mean have you Having gone through that now. I mean have you ever distilled that or do you know what? What separates one from the other? Yeah, I think it's just at the end of the day it's it's when you get when you grasp that reality of how life is short and At the end of the day life isn't fair for anyone. We all have our ups and our downs

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And there's many people that have, and I've gotten to talk with a lot of folks since all this has happened. And some of the stories that I've heard, I mean, they just baffle, they baffle you. And naturally you're just, man, I don't know how this person is living. How could they be functioning in life? They've gone through such traumatic events, anywhere from rape victims to individuals that were born with physical deformities. I mean, the list goes on.

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And at the end of the day, I think it all boils down to their willpower, their choice. And because I think all of us, we could set back and we can play that victim card. It's certainly easy, but at the end of the day, pity, it can only get you so far. And at some point you got to put on your big boy pants and realize that this is my life, how am I going to live it? And what example do I want to set to others? Do I want to be?

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a Debbie Downer, how do I want to be remembered? Somebody that give up, that complained and bickered and was bitter at the world, or somebody that, you know what, I'm gonna get it back up and I'm gonna keep pressing forward and I'm gonna make something of myself and of my life. And I have more respect for people that have gone through traumatic events and they still keep pressing in, they still keep ticking on. Somebody that has gone through something in their life and they just give up, my respect for them doesn't go very far.

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Even though I know they have a story, they've gone through pain, but pain is inevitable. Everybody, at some point in their life, will face it. It's just get back up, press forward. It's your life. We all have a choice. And so I just choose to live my life in a positive way and get back up and make something of myself. So transitioning, you've made that choice with the guidance of both your parents and your mother, your own willpower.

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What was like step one? Like, you know, once you were at a place of recovery, like where did it, where did kind of the, you know, building to the foundation and different things like that, but like, what was kind of phase one for you? Yeah, I think, well, there's many steps in getting to the other side of something traumatic. And I tell you, my support group made a tremendous difference. Obviously I...

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spoke in churches and I had a lot of pastors and leaders that were surrounding me, a family that supported me. And there's many people they always say to me, well, Cody, what if I didn't have a family that loved me and was there for me during my traumatic experience? And I think to myself, well, the moment you turn 18 years old, you are in charge of putting your support system in place. There is people out there in your life, out there in this world that care about you. It's just a matter of finding those individuals, reaching out and

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forming that relationship with them. And a lot of these people, these pastors, leaders, mentors, I had formed that prior before all this happened, and it made a big difference. And so our surroundings have a powerful impact on our lives. And I had to put myself in a good environment, a good environment, an environment that would encourage me, support me. I had to listen to good

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watch good television shows, not negative stuff. Lord knows there's a lot of negative in today's world. And also there was people that I had relationships with before the wreck and they came to me and they wanted to talk down to me and really down and be Debbie Downers with me. You know, misery loves company. And so I had to remove myself from some of those individuals. It doesn't mean I'm better than them, but it's certainly just.

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means that I'm wanting something better with my life. And so if you want good results to come about, find those individuals that are producing good results and grab a hold of them, communicate with them, go do activities with them, because you need that. We need each other. But I always talk about the epic steps and I actually am gonna be releasing a coaching program online, where we're gonna dive into these steps a little bit deeper.

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But even whenever I go speaking for corporate events, colleges, I mean, a list was on, I will share these things. And there's a free PDF that I make available to all listeners and viewers. It's at EpicLifeGameplan.com. EpicLifeGameplan.com. If they go on there, they type their name, their email, they can download these steps and utilize them in their own lives. But Epic is an acronym. If you want to live an Epic life, you apply these steps.

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So the E, the E stands for embrace challenges. Challenges will always present themselves at one level or another. It's just something we have to embrace. And then we have the P, which is provide perspective. How can I look at this situation differently? What are the lessons I can learn through my pain? And then we have the I, which is implement change, applying those lessons to our lives. And then we have the C, which is celebrate.

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celebrate your story, celebrate the fact that you're here, that you're alive, that you have another day to live. And out of that celebration, we're serving others. We're serving others and making a positive impact on the world around us. And for me, these are steps that I learned through this event and steps that I continue to live out on a daily basis because they do, they apply not only in our personal lives, but they can also apply in our professions, our businesses. And so it's certainly something that I encourage everybody to grab ahold of and...

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Take action. I like it, man. I love, I love having marketing. I love a good acronym. Hopefully remember things. And, uh, as I heard you say that, I was like thinking it from both a personal level and a business level. And I was like, I see a lot of, uh, business practice there as I was listening. Um, I know you've been fortunate enough to, uh, and I should say the audiences where you've spoke have been fortunate enough to hear your story and hear you speak.

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Can you talk about any of those or memorable moments, you know, since the accident? Where in, you know, any, what do they say, favorite moments from some of those speaking opportunities? Oh yeah, I mean, there's so many. I mean, this story, I've been so fortunate since all this has happened, and this was back in 2013. Here we are in 2021.

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And it's been remarkable to see all that has happened. You know, I released the book, Scar Release, Breaking Free of Yesterday's Troubles. That's made a huge impact on people's lives. And the speaking has really transformed into not so much working with children. I mean, I'll still do some kids events, but those are rare nowadays. Mostly it's teenagers, adults, corporate audiences, colleges, even correctional facilities, prisons. And you know, I've spoken one back in

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2019, a lot of men that have, you know, their whole lives have been dramatically changed because of their poor choices. And, you know, I think the nature of my story, it hits home with a lot of, a lot of folks because, you know, I was scarred because of somebody else's poor choice. And I had to practice forgiveness, but then like in places like correctional facilities, they are scarred because of their own poor choices. So now not only do they have to.

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uh... will practice forgiveness but practice forgiveness on themselves they have to forgive themselves and so it really it it hits home i think that the metaphor of scars whether they are physical or emotional really connects and really in my book that's something that i address uh... scar release is actually named after a surgical procedure that they do on burn survivors and as a burn survivor have contracture scars

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And when a contracture scar occurs over the top of the joint, it can limit the mobility of that joint. And so for example, with my hands, my hands had contracted to the point where I couldn't even hold on to a bottle of water. My joints were very immobile. It was very challenging to function and do things. So I was there with the occupational therapist and she said, Cody, you need surgery. So I went up to the burn unit, their surgeons, they're also plastic surgeons. They began to assess me.

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and they said, we're gonna need to do a surgical contracture release, otherwise known as a scar release. And during that procedure, they go in, they cut the scar at its root and it frees you up and allows you to be mobile. But a scar release procedure doesn't remove the appearance of a scar. It allows the mobility to move with the scar. And so that's really what I would try to teach people is that everyone at some point in their life, they have been burned, divorce, um, loss of a job, loved one.

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list goes on and those burning moments create scars. And if we're not careful those scars, if they're over the top of different joints in our lives, for example, business relationships, being a parent, there's different joints. If they're if the problem is not addressed, then it limits our mobility and how we function in those areas and the key to freeing up that scar is, you know, finding the root of the problem.

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And for many people, it's just setting with themselves and thinking, why am I affected in this area? What is the root cause? And a lot of folks don't wanna take the time out to really examine themselves because it brings up past pain and hurt. And surgery, a scar release is certainly not a walk in the park, it still hurts. But in the long run, it frees me up. And I still have the scars, scars are permanent, whether they are physical or emotional. It's just, I'm not allowing those scars to limit me.

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and my mobility and how I function in life. I love. And so that really has hit home with a lot of people, a lot of people, college students, corporate. I mean, it's been quite remarkable to hear some of the conversations and some of the people that have shared with me their own personal stories. And so this is the most rewarding job ever. I love it. That's, you know, hearing you talk about that, it kind of, almost like some of the questions I've asked been building towards that. Because I think back to like what,

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differentiates those that get over and that don't. Maybe they need to read your book first and foremost. But like plug yes, but actually very serious. The difference is I think if they've, because again, I mean I think of things I've been through, I think of friends, I think everybody's had these moments that we all have scar tissue, you know? But the ones that are able to create

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some kind of relief, but it's both relief, release, whatever it is, because I think that's the difference is the people that get over that and the ones that don't. You know, like, and it's so crazy how the analogy between the surgery and how it relates to life in so many ways, it's crazy how all this builds. But you know, it goes back to me, I think every, I believe everything happens for a purpose. It's...

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Just something I've always believed in. Uh, I do have faith. Uh, but I've also just kind of been wired that way and I hear your story. And it feels like just, you know, whether it's a higher power or, you know, intestinal fortitude or whatever, but it feels like it's also purposeful in telling the story and what you've done with the book and what you're doing with the foundation and all those things. It's amazing, man.

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Oh, thank you. Yeah, there's and it really is I you know, I look at you know, life it truly is a gift. And when you go through something so traumatic at a young age, you learn to appreciate life. And you find out what is most important at the end of the day. And back whenever I was in my younger 20s, it was like some of the things I was worried about really aren't worth my time and energy. So I tried to examine my life.

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And if there's things I'm getting frustrated over, I'm like, is this really worth it? And most of the time it's not. And so I just focus on what is the overall good of what I'm looking to achieve in my life. And that is to bring hope. So I try to lead every area of my life by that. There's a powerful quote that I love sharing. And I was given this quote by actually one of my mentors who ended up passing back in 2019, Dr. Sean Stevenson, an amazing

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speaker, author, did a lot in his life. And his big thing was, I mean, he was actually, well, I'll say this, he was born with a physical deformity. He's only three foot tall, three foot tall, lived in a wheelchair, just turned 40 years old. And he was trying out a wheelchair and he has a fragile bone disorder. Trying out a new wheelchair, and I guess the wheelchair had tipped over and he broke his skull. He had bleeding on the brain, he was in surgery and unfortunately he did not make it. But...

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He lived his life by that. Actually his last words, he told his wife, he said, this is happening for me and not to me. And he lived his entire career with that. You know, he was born with this injury and he had to look at it. This is happening for me, not to me changed everything. But there's this quote that he shared with me and I love, and I'll share it with all of you. It's actually by, I think a lady by the name of the Caitlin Walsh.

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And it says, the key to success is playing the hand you were dealt like it was the hand that you wanted. And I think it's just a matter of how are we going to play our cards? And I played my cards in the way that I wanted to and it has served me in every area of my life and I'm super grateful. I love it, man. Where um, where can everyone uh learn more about your story?

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Let's give them the website for downloading the piece again. Where can everybody kind of fall along with everything that's going on with Cody Burns these days? Yeah, so my website, CodyBurns.com, C-O-D-Y-B-Y-R-N-S.com. They can Google me, there's all kinds of videos and articles out there. But I'm mostly active on social media. I would say more than any of them, it's Instagram.

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at the Cody burns. I'm also on Facebook, Twitter, I'm not much of a Twitter guy, but I do have an account for those that are interested. Kind of like me. Yeah, it's like Twitter. You know, it is what it is. And then there's a LinkedIn but I also have my email info at Cody byrns.com and if anybody would like to reach out to me directly, just send me a message and we're happy to connect. I love it, man. Very motivational.

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I encourage everyone to go check out Scar Release. I'm sure on Amazon, anywhere on your website, we can buy it. Yeah, here's what it looks like. And so it's digital and paperback. It is available. Great. So everybody go check that out. Go follow along with Cody Byrns. I really appreciate it, brother, having you on the show, telling your story. I think we've just scratched the surface. I know they can learn more with the book and on your site, but so appreciative of you coming on today.

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Oh man, it's my pleasure. I'm glad to be here. Thank you for having me. Yeah, my pleasure. Hey man, you know where to find us. We're at theradcast.com search for Cody Burns. So it's for Scar release. You'll find all the content from today's episode. You know where to find me. I'm at Ryan Alford on all the platforms. We'll see you next time. The Radcast.