00:01

 

You're listening to the Radcast, a top 25 worldwide business podcast. If it's radical, we cover it.

 

 

 

00:13

 

Here's your host, Ryan Alford. Hey guys, what's up? This is Ryan Alford, your host. It's the Radcast. And man, we say if it's radical, we cover it. And I just glad I get to, to name my number these days. You know, I'm going on the gram scrolling through. I don't ever know what's going to hit my feed. I got, you know, babies over here. I got this over there. People trying to.

 

 

 

00:41

 

Ask me for money over here. And then as funny as hell comedian hits my radar. Damn Lachlan Patterson. What's up Lachlan? Hey buddy. Just, just, just hanging out, man. Thanks for having me on your show. Hey man. You know, I, I get to name my number now. I get to go, who do I want? And hopefully they look, they got to respond. It's reciprocation, which luckily you did. You're hilarious, man. I, you just, I.

 

 

 

01:10

 

I am a connoisseur of comedy, you know, and you're funny, man. Really funny. Thanks. Thanks dude. I just, I wanted to have you on the show. If nothing else to go, Lachlan Patterson is fucking talented and he needs to know that Ryan Offord thinks that it may mean nothing, but you know, I saw I checked that box right here. I'm honored. Thank you. I, uh, that always feels good. I don't ever get tired of, uh,

 

 

 

01:40

 

that. Hey, skills, your craft, like that's what you do for a living. And then I think people maybe take, don't quite realize like entertainers, like this is the job, like they're doing it, but like it's a profession. It's a skill. Like they enjoy the obviously everyone likes cheers, but knowing that other people appreciate what you do and that see the value of that in the world we live in, it's so serious and so God, we need more Lachlan Patterson's in the world.

 

 

 

02:12

 

Thanks man. You know, I, it's funny. It sucks that I need like, like, like I could have a YouTube video and then under the comments, it has all these comments that are like, keep it going. Thank you. You're so funny. And then one guy's like, this guy looks like Nickelback and then, and I'm just miserable. I'm like, melted to the floor. First of all, there's Nickelback's not a guy either.

 

 

 

02:41

 

So they didn't even take the time. But what I try to do is, you know, I'm probably of similar ages where I just try to keep a level head about everything. Don't get too excited by all the excitement and also don't get too down about the, um, the Nickelback comments. Well, one wise mentor told me you haven't officially made it until someone cares enough.

 

 

 

03:10

 

to criticize you. So like, it, like literally it's easy to criticize, but at the same time, most people just is kind of, if they're not stopping at all, that time to kind of like, they need to put you down. Then, then you officially know that you're doing something right. So it probably isn't always come across that way. Cause we're all human beings and we're like, Oh, damn.

 

 

 

03:40

 

Is he right? I thought I was, everyone else said it was good. This guy says it's bad. It was really bad. Well, I'll listen to him, Lachlan. You're funny. And I, Ed, I've shown you now to like 20 people and every one of them was like, yeah, like dying. So it's- Thanks, man. Yeah, man. I mean, it's, it's good shit. I mean, you're what? Canadian. I mean, I know I'm jumping right in. I'm like giving you all these accolades, but-

 

 

 

04:08

 

I know everybody's going to be able to find you and read and listen and go, damn, we heard Lachlan on the Radcast and he is funny as shit. So I, uh, we'll take pride in anyone that comes through that channel, but let's, let's set the table for everybody Lachlan and tell a little bit about your story and let's talk a little bit about the business of comedy. Yeah, let's do it. Um, let's set the table. How should I set it? Yeah. Orcs. Yeah. What made you so funny?

 

 

 

04:39

 

Um, I think I just was like, I was an awkward kid for sure. I didn't, um, you know, I. Yeah. I had trouble making friends and comedy seemed to be the way I fit in. I would, uh, I would, I was a joker. I was always trying to make people laugh and I wasn't good at it, obviously to start, so it would often get me in trouble. Um, you know, the, the.

 

 

 

05:06

 

The dig on comedians is often that they don't take things seriously, which is great when it's that time. But, you know, just like a kid who just isn't funny, you know, it's just like, it becomes annoying. So I was annoying for a long, long time. And then, because people didn't get it. Is it cause you were kind of dry and it was like it went over their head or something? I don't think I even got it. Like for the first.

 

 

 

05:35

 

They say about comedy is you don't really find your persona or whatever it is for the first 10 years. And I agree with that. There was just me just like writing all these things that I thought were funny, but they just weren't. I didn't understand what I wanted. Now after 10 years, I think of a joke and I can imagine how it would go.

 

 

 

06:03

 

And it's a lot clearer to me. Even still today, I mean, I'm trying to work on this bit about the half sandwich and soup menu item and how ridiculous it is to me. And just the idea of a half sandwich, it's like the only thing on the menu that's half of something. And that some chef was like, what do you think about a half sandwich?

 

 

 

06:32

 

And the owner's like, well, tell me more. Well, what I do is I make a sandwich and then I cut it in half and I get rid of half of the sandwich. And we just sell half a sandwich and soup. And I can't quite make it funny, but it's crazy to me. It's so funny to me that this is an item. And I don't know, I'm trying to come up with conspiracy theories on why they do it.

 

 

 

06:59

 

My lady thinks it's because they want you to buy the full sandwich. So, cause the other thing about the half sandwich is see now, here we go. I'm getting into it. The half, half, half sandwich is usually only like a couple of bucks cheaper than the full sandwich. So it's not even like a deal. It's not like half price. So like, do half a steak usually, right? Half a chicken cordon bleu. That's not flying. Right.

 

 

 

07:28

 

Right. Everybody would think that you ate half of it before they gave it to them. That's the other conspiracy is where's the other half of my sandwich? Like, tell me how this happened. They got a guy in the back eating half of everything. Just the dishwasher. They keep the staff fed with the other half of your lunch. Yeah. Dude, we should be right. Like I'll be in your writer's room, man. Like you had it right there, dude.

 

 

 

07:55

 

That's exactly what I was thinking is some, I don't want to order this until you tell me where the fuck the other half of my sandwich is. I, uh, it has nothing to do with this joke, but I always think back to Chris Farley and doing an SNL skit where they did the, sir, we secretly replaced your coffee with a taster's choice.

 

 

 

08:21

 

And cause usually they do that. There's an old commercial where they do that. They go, Oh, I didn't know. You know, but he gets mad, like throws the table. You son of a bitch. Yeah. What did you do with that? Oh my God. Yeah. He's so much better at it than me. Oh, whatever. Rest in peace, Chris Farley. Different. Oh man. Yeah. The energy that was, so my whole career,

 

 

 

08:50

 

Um, you know, I was a young, handsome comedian, which was unusual. And so I had agents throw me into, I even had, I had a, my agent was a modeling agency and they would submit me for stuff commercials. I was doing auditions for commercials and I never booked anything 400 times. Minimum. I walked into a audition, you know, got all ready, you know, read the part, get all dressed up in the part.

 

 

 

09:20

 

I would go drive to through Hollywood and park and go in and sit and wait 400 or more times. And, you know, if any direction was given to me, it was more energy. Let's try that again. More energy. And that was just too, it wasn't, I wasn't able to do that. I was never able to do that. We are, that is part of what makes your comedy good. I think is kind of the understated. It's like.

 

 

 

09:51

 

You don't know what's coming because you're so under, like some people are so heavy handed in the delivery. It's like, you know, I feel the sledgehammer coming before you even swing it. It was you. It's like, everything's right here. And so, and then it's like, and then it's, I think it makes, for me, it makes it that much more funny because then I think that's what makes it hit hard for me is cause it's like.

 

 

 

10:19

 

You don't ever change like the monitor, like, you know, but you're like, but then you're dying, laughing because the mat, the subject matters hilarious. Thank you. I want, I want the audience to, um, enjoy trying to sniff out where the joke is. I don't want to, a lot of comedians also will use their hands to deliver that or their heads, they'll not. I watched Chris Rock's entire last comedy special on Netflix and I don't know.

 

 

 

10:47

 

If you next time you watch it, if anyone watches, you'll notice when he tells the joke, he goes like this. Every punchline. He's nodding, he's coming. I don't even think he knows he's doing it. But I try to just tell the joke and let the audience figure out if they like it or not on their own. Yeah. And I think a lot of people are smart like it. And, but I see that.

 

 

 

11:18

 

There's something about you that's like, I don't know if self deprecation is right. I don't know if that's part of it, but sort of like, I'm up here to tell you these things and I'm not going to make it funny to you, it's either going to be funny or not, I'm just going to say it. And like, but it is funny. It's like, but that's, that's part of what it makes it the whole stick, whether it's a sticker, having you sitting here talking with me, people, and people that listen to this, that didn't go watch your stuff.

 

 

 

11:48

 

You are kind of that guy. So it's like, it's not even an app. Okay. No, I don't even think I'm sure you turn it on. Like I know you're, you're an entertainer. Like, I mean, I know there's like buttons you push and do all that, but like it feels natural. I, it's the only way I know how I, um, I do turn it up. Uh, I turn it up for interviews, standup and when I have guests over, um, but. It's a.

 

 

 

12:19

 

It's just, yeah, I've tried, God, I've burned all the footage, but when I first started, I tried every different style of comedy. I tried to mimic all of my heroes in comedy and just didn't feel right. And this just feels, this is how I'm gonna do it. Thank you. This is the only way I feel comfortable telling jokes.

 

 

 

12:48

 

I think the thing that I do that makes it funnier is the language I use. Yeah, I definitely try to use...

 

 

 

13:02

 

language that people can relate to for sure. Yeah. I know. And I read about your background and stuff, like the, the journey into the business, you were, you were set up and groomed for a lot of different things. Comedy, not being one of them. Yeah. I'd love to talk a little bit about that. Um, love my dad, but, and my dad, I had, I had a dad, I don't know if you're a dad of this variety. Um,

 

 

 

13:32

 

but he was a high school counselor. He's a retired high school counselor. And so, you know, for a living, he got kids jobs and got them in school and figured out their careers. And so at an early age, my dad was figuring out my career path. And he was also my, my dad was my baseball coach for my baseball team. He was my, he was my...

 

 

 

14:01

 

If he wasn't the coach, if he couldn't get the job as coach, he would stand right next to the coach and eventually become the assistant coach by just virtue of being there every day next to him. My dad had the keys to the field, the park, and to the big shed in every park usually has a shed with all the baseball equipment and all the stuff.

 

 

 

14:30

 

this, the pitching machine and all the gear. So every weekend, my dad would take me to play baseball at the park and teach me soccer and, and lacrosse and hockey. And, you know, I was, I was groomed for hockey. I played. I remember I, I never got to my kids. My friends were all playing hockey and I wanted to play hockey. And my dad goes, okay, let's play hockey. And he immediately put me in.

 

 

 

15:00

 

training camps. And I was in training camp for so long that when I finally actually got into hockey, the first time I ever played a hockey game, I didn't know what was going on. Who are these guys? Who are these adults in black and white striped shirts getting in my way while I'm trying to do my circles? And you know, like it was so, I was just groomed a lot by my father. He raised me very closely.

 

 

 

15:28

 

And so, and then I remember one day I said, I wanna do comedy and he just didn't wanna hear it. He didn't even hear it. He just changed the subject. He didn't even acknowledge that I said it. And this went on for years because he had put in all this work on me. My dad picked all my college courses. Right?

 

 

 

15:57

 

I brought home my calendar for college and he, um, and I woke up the next morning and he had filled it all out. He's like, here you go, go take this to your school and, uh, and enjoy college. Do you think that was because in a way that was his career, what he was good at and he was directing kids. So he wanted to make sure he did that for his son or was it like the product of him not maybe getting or doing what?

 

 

 

16:27

 

he wanted to do not having that in his life or was it just purely like his way? I think it's a bit of both. I think my dad's father was a wartime kid. My dad was a wartime kid, but he was born during the war, I guess, war two. But that was a time after World War Two where people were, you know, they were having to ration everything and be very careful and save.

 

 

 

16:56

 

and be cautious. And so my dad's a very cautious guy. And stand-up comedy is the most, it's irresponsible. It's wild. Especially, I think it was 1993 or something when I decided I wanted to do comedy. So it wasn't really, it wasn't a lot of, now anyone can be a comedian, but back then it was just.

 

 

 

17:26

 

just wasn't a good career choice. So definitely because that's, he's like, I'm an expert. This is what I do for a living. So that's definitely part of it. But I think also because he wanted me to have job security. He wanted me to have, be safe. He loved me. He loved me very much and he wanted what's best for me. But I just saw it as being closed-minded. And so I ignored him. And

 

 

 

17:56

 

Ran away, I ran away to Los Angeles.

 

 

 

18:00

 

I'm sure that upset the apple cart a little bit or was it like, did he love you through it or is it like, was it like a little bit of disowning?

 

 

 

18:12

 

There was love, but it was, it was all, you know, I wasn't doing well. That didn't help. You know, so you didn't say, Hey, look what I did. Yeah. No, it was, it was a lot of, it was, it was a lot of just not talking to him because I, um, I didn't have anything to report and he would always, you know, remind me that if I ever want to come back, I, you know, as a guy in the plumbers union and.

 

 

 

18:41

 

You know, he can get started right away or we can go, we can get you back in school. And I got you. I got you covered son. Just come up here and I'll take care of you. I mean, I appreciate your old dad, but I'm kind of, I'm, you know, and I can't speak for your, you know, but I'm glad you're a comedian, you know, we need more, look, we need more comedy, you know, like not everybody can deliver it. So, uh, I'm glad you didn't go back to plumbing.

 

 

 

19:10

 

plumbing bro. I'm six five. Yeah, me too. That's a, that's a first. That's first time. Exactly. Even can you imagine being a plumber? Excuse me. I'm gonna sneeze. Can you imagine being a plumber at our size? No. Even inside I cover my nose. Yes. Bless you. Yeah. I'm too big for plumbing. So

 

 

 

19:39

 

Thank you, yeah.

 

 

 

19:44

 

Oh man, I just couldn't, I knew that if I went back, I just would be miserable, you know? So kept going, get a little feedback every once in a while. Just, you know, I feel like that's in life too. If you keep going every once in a while when you think it's over and you're just gonna quit, you know, a comedian would say you're funny. And sometimes it was comedian of notoriety and that was just like, you know, like I remember.

 

 

 

20:11

 

Bob Saget was at an open mic when I first started and he said, that's a really funny joke you did about that. And I said, thank you. I was so honored or flattered. And he goes, I remember he goes, if you just, you could just add like, and then I, and then I fucked her in the ass at the end of it. I think that would, I was like. Did it have anything to do with the joke or was it just totally like what he was saying? Like if you add that anything, it becomes funny. It was.

 

 

 

20:40

 

It's just Bob Saget's take on it. And I don't know if anyone's ever seen Bob before, Rest In Peace Bob. He was a very filthy comedian. And so he gave his version of that joke to me as a gift. And I thought that was so nice. And I, but I had no intention of saying it or using it. Cause I do. He was, the irony of him being so filthy is, you know, doing America's Funniest Home Videos, which, you know, like the most, I don't know, neutered show of all time, as far as like family friendly and everything else. Yeah.

 

 

 

21:09

 

I don't think it has full house. Yeah. Full house. Oh yeah. Everything on TV was so family oriented and then to stand up is filthy. Yes. I'm not. I don't know if you in today's age, if you could get away with those two sides, everybody's so damn woke and like, if you were that on, if you were that on social media or a standup, you couldn't possibly have, you know, little house on the

 

 

 

21:39

 

wholesome TV show. Yeah, comedy is that one's business that it doesn't withstand the test of time like music. It constantly has to adapt to society. Yeah. Right? That's right. We can't, so like when you watch old comedy, like I have old comedy in my garage. So whenever I'm working in the garage, I play like Kinnison and stuff.

 

 

 

22:09

 

And the stuff, yeah, the stuff he says you could not say, but that makes it even funnier to me. It's like, oh my God, like we said this, we like, people are laughing. So it's not just that he said it, but everyone agreed. Yes. And think about like the old TV shows, like Blazing Saddles and like, like even Samford and Son, go watch Samford and Son and like, you know, like.

 

 

 

22:37

 

Right. Television. Yeah, that's right. The shows, same thing and watching, I don't know, old Chevy Chase movies. And he's like one of my favorite. Oh, yeah. Old Chevy Chase, old Richard Pryor. Yeah. Oh, Richard Pryor. Oh, my God. So so many movies would not get made today. And most of them are comedy. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I mean, yeah.

 

 

 

23:05

 

Uh, I try coming through social media world. I mean, you, you've, your career has kind of blossomed, you know, in this world of it was all standard, I mean, like 93, 94, like late in 2000s, I mean, you've, you've kind of covered the gamut here of like the channels for distribution of comedy, like what's that evolution been like for you? Oh, I think it started with my space. Uh,

 

 

 

23:35

 

That was probably my first experience in social media. And that was Dane Cook. Dane Cook blew up MySpace, right? Yeah. Tia Tequila, they showed it as not a social space, but as a marketing platform to comedians. So we all started as young comedians, we all started building our MySpace profile to showcase us as comedians and not as just regular everyday people.

 

 

 

24:05

 

Um, I've now, I now have a Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, um, a website, TikTok, Cameo. Um, I look at my phone and what else you got here? Um, uh, Twitter. I said Twitter. I got.

 

 

 

24:33

 

Yeah. You got like 12 platforms, like everybody. Right. Trying to keep up with. Waze. I got Waze. Do you follow me on Waze? No. I'd be, I'd be scary if you followed me on Waze. I was about to say. Leave me alone. You're in the car with me? I'm right behind you. Yeah, there's no. I'm a big fan and I'm right behind you. There's a big dude on the side coming up on the right. Yes.

 

 

 

25:01

 

We're all big fans. Leave me alone. Jesus. Um, but how's that changed your, the business of comedy for you? Like, I know it's a lot to keep up with, but I mean, is that right? You're an evolution or bad evolution from, uh, okay. The only one he went the way he wants sees or hears Lachlan's jokes is in person. So there's huge onus on in-person stuff versus the digital medium.

 

 

 

25:31

 

Yes, it's, I find it to be complete. So far it's been completely separate. So it's been great. Social media has been awesome in that, uh, man, I, I get so much wonderful, warm feedback, you know, people touch their screen twice. That's what I get from them. Or they send me a picture of a face with two tears out the side. It's very nice. I appreciate it, but it doesn't.

 

 

 

26:00

 

at all replace the faces in the audience and meeting people in person. Like that's what I really love. And, and so I give a lot to social media too, cause I, it's, it's a very giving thing, but I feel like the, the, the give and take is much more equal when I, when I have a live show and I get to see them laughing.

 

 

 

26:27

 

as opposed to a picture of a circle with two little drops of water. Like I'm, I just, I'm going to give you some rockets or something like something just different. Like give me some rockets to at least use the emoji. I'm giving it to you. I'm going to like put that on every feed going forward. So you're going to know it's me. You're going to see my name and my blue check mark I had before I could buy it. And you'll know with that a rocket emoji.

 

 

 

26:57

 

I also know there's people out there that just like everything that I do too. And that is tough too, because I'm, I'm also doing R and D here on these things. Right. I'm, when I send these clips out, I want to find out if they're working or not. And if you just like everything, God, I'm killing myself with this comment, but, and I don't gauge whether or not it's, I get it, but you'll know which one's like more than others and that should tell you.

 

 

 

27:26

 

If you get true 300 likes on average and something you put out there gets 900 likes, but then something else gets 150. That's kind of, even if all 150 were positive emojis, it tells you that, uh, it landed a little flat. You're right. You're absolutely right. Or are you just going to, when I'll give you my cell phone number, when this ends, you're going to just start texting me. I'll give you the real feedback. I'll be like, ah, I'll give you the, we'll have like a scale of.

 

 

 

27:56

 

You know, whatever that might take. Sure. Stars. Let's do the star system. I'll take it. Yeah. Um, I love the star system. Um, so I, dude, I, I, I went from at the beginning of this year, I had 8,000 followers on Instagram, for example. And now it's at like 40, 40 something thousand. Yep. And, and it's because I hired these guys. I hired these kids.

 

 

 

28:25

 

who reached out to me and they're like, let me do it for you. And I said, sure. And so I send them the clips and they cut them and send them back to me. And then I look at them and if I like them, I post them. And it's been a big help because it takes me to make a clip because I have the editing software, but it was taking me, I would say three hours for a clip. Of course.

 

 

 

28:55

 

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29:22

 

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29:47

 

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30:15

 

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30:44

 

Shout out. Yeah, I'm glad you found someone. But now would not. Now that we're buddies, we're friends, our friends don't let friends spend three hours editing a video. Not like, yeah, you know, never again. And they, and they do it better than me. Yeah. And so our specialists and they're, it's affordable. I mean, I, you know, you found the, the path. You like these guys. Oh, I don't know who you're using. It's okay. But we do a lot better. You do.

 

 

 

31:13

 

I should send me your guy. I, I, um, it's funny cause they're in Arizona and I'll take a meeting with them. Oh, and I'll see that, you know, it's 110 degrees there and they're just stuck in this apartment or their house. And secretly I'm like, great. Perfect scenario for me that you can't leave. Yeah. Just go here and edit. Yeah. But. No, I've. Every.

 

 

 

31:42

 

Yeah. Big team, but this stuff's pretty good. I'm not trying to undercut them in the middle of the podcast. I just, I think I'm more happy that you've realized that you didn't need to like spend three hours yourself on, you know, editing stuff. Well, that step was a huge, um, that they posted one clip or I posted a clip they cut for me that, um, this clip particular has been, uh, you know, I've been telling this joke. And.

 

 

 

32:12

 

I liked the joke, but I didn't realize on social media that it would garner like that much positive feedback. I don't know the algorithms or anything, but I post a clip every day and I like them all. I like everything I post. It's coming from me. So I'm trusting that this has my certified guaranteed, I like it on it.

 

 

 

32:41

 

So when one goes viral, I'm like, great. What about all the other ones? But this one clip is about, I don't know if you've seen it, it's about how like, I love shrimp anyway. It started an argument online between people. It's what's that called? It's definitely polarized people and they're arguing on my feet.

 

 

 

33:10

 

like over this debate. And it's fun. It's become fun for me to read these people. I don't partake at all because I'm done. My work is done. You guys can do it. You know what I call that? You know, it's the best kind of performing content that a lot of people shy away from. And you may not have even intended it. Agitational content. Yeah, okay. That's secret sauce right there. That's a freebie.

 

 

 

33:37

 

The others require you call and at least tell me a joke and make me laugh. Then I'll give you anything you want. You know, you may be free. Thank you. But yeah, agitation, agitation, you know, and it polarizing is definitely what it causes, but, but it's like, if you agitate, you usually break through. And so, yeah, see, I'm not, I'm not agitating anybody with the half sandwich bit. No. I like.

 

 

 

34:06

 

other than the guy who came up with it, nobody is, nobody is, every once in a while, someone will be like, I like the half sandwich. And you know what they say to me, Ryan, they go, you know, sometimes I'm not that hungry. And I'm like, well, don't fucking eat. Just don't, why are you going to a restaurant? Have a cup of tea. Yeah. But no, they have to eat. Half a sandwich. I want a cup of soup, not a bowl. I got to have a cup and half a sandwich.

 

 

 

34:35

 

Yeah. Give me a hot dog, but take a bite out of it first. I don't want to eat the whole thing. So just give it to me. And that's part of it. It could be more visual joke, you know, like, yeah, but the, uh, but socials, but have you seen a correlation with social media and crowds or people like coming to shows or anything like that? Or is it just totally separate?

 

 

 

35:04

 

That's a good question. You're a very smart man. By the way, I like it when people say to me, good question to me. I no longer need to hear the answer like that. I'm full, but I'm glad you asked me that. You're blocking. I still need it. Um, I haven't, but I just started adding my, uh, show button at the end of the clips. Yeah.

 

 

 

35:32

 

And I'm hoping, but no, I haven't seen any, anything, no correlation yet. But, you need to call it action. Every video you should have a call to action. You should add, I mean, Hey, this is a marketing and business show. So we'll get into one of two things. You need to have a news, a way to capture everybody's emails. You need to turn followers into people. The way you turn them into people is you get their email or the phone number.

 

 

 

36:01

 

And phone numbers are still kind of weird. You know, even if there's texting now, like it gets a little weird. You want people going, oh, they want my phone number, but get their email address captured like it at your web address so that then at every, every show you have, you send out a very simple email telling them where the show is and where it is and you never know. Yeah. Somebody might be in Timbuktu, Arizona, and somebody might be in Virginia and your shows in Minnesota, but.

 

 

 

36:30

 

You never know when they're traveling or if they know people there. So you should always, your call to action on every video should be, I've got a live special going on YouTube. It's $10 or if you're selling something, or you should at least go sign up for. You know, if you're enjoy this, I'd love to put you on my list for VIP jokes and experiences. Okay. See the VIP list, the Lachlan.

 

 

 

36:59

 

VIP list. Secret list. Yeah. Secrets. Where I tell you my secrets. I got all the tricks, man. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll take this offline. The, uh, yeah, but you do. Yeah. You can start tying it to it. And like now you've got the audience, you've been 44,000. You're starting to get, you know, scale so you can activate that. And I think you'd, I don't know what your following is on Tik TOK, but you gotta, you should start, that should start popping for you. If you're doing

 

 

 

37:28

 

the right content. I haven't looked at your stuff over there. I just, you're always on my feed on Instagram. I could do better on tech talk. The tech talks angrier at me. Like though I find that the, they'll they're more critical. They're critical, critical. They're more critical. Of likes like censoring your jokes. I just call it. I did a post posted something about like how fentanyl I have. That I want to talk about that on the

 

 

 

37:57

 

I told Cameron and Sawyer, I was like, literally told them, I told your joke, you know, if I can tell your joke and like they're chuckling a little bit, you know, it's a good joke because they didn't even have to hear you here say it. But like, it's freaking hilarious because it's so true. Right. So for our audience, let's, you know, you don't have to get into character here, but I want you to share the bit a little bit. Every time I hear a warning about fentanyl.

 

 

 

38:27

 

uh, and the dangers, it always, it sounds like they want me to try fentanyl. It'll, guy will come on the news and we can't stop fentanyl. It's so dangerous. It's 50 times more powerful than heroin and it's cheaper than crack cocaine. And you can buy it anywhere now in America. So don't do it. I'm like, marketing line sales line. Don't do it.

 

 

 

38:56

 

It's the most popular drug on the streets and it tastes just like chocolate. Don't do it. Pairs well with a Chardonnay. So apparently there is a scene and I had to even go watch it. There's three different comments from TikTok where this guy's stealing from, um, a movie, uh, with John C. Riley where it's kind of like a takeoff. Oh, walk hard, walk hard. Is that it? So.

 

 

 

39:24

 

And there's a scene in walk hard, which is very funny. Kim Meadows is smoking weed and John C. Riley's character wants some and he's like, don't, you don't want this. And he's like, why is it, will it kill me? And he goes, no, it's, it won't kill you. And then he's like, well, is it addictive? And he's like, no, it won't make you like, you know what I mean? Like it was, it's very, it's parallels this bit. Sure. And,

 

 

 

39:55

 

They thought. You know, when you do stuff like that, they don't realize that first of all, they're totally different. And also it's not like I'm making this bit up. Watch a news clip on fentanyl. That's funny. It's exactly what the news people say. Yeah, I'm only taking it from the, like they'll interview a police officer. It's like, I can't, we can't seem to stop fentanyl. It is the most popular drug on the streets.

 

 

 

40:24

 

somehow and we can't stop it and people don't understand that it's 50 times. Well, maybe stop bragging about it. Maybe you guys are the problem. Maybe they need some, like the Center for Drug, what is it? The American Anti-Drug Foundation, whoever makes the ad council commercials, maybe one of the team that comes up with these warnings.

 

 

 

40:53

 

should actually be an addict. Yeah. You know? Maybe you should run it by some addicts first. And see if it's working. Exactly. See if it's turning you off or turning you on. Yeah. It's a hundred times more powerful than, what's it called? It's the one you get in the hospital. They always, no one in the hospital, they go it's a hundred times more, morphine. It's 100 times more powerful than morphine.

 

 

 

41:22

 

Yeah. If I'm an addict, that sounds great. Yeah, exactly. So they, uh, and it's always sensitive, probably. And I get it, but at the same time, a lot of people are being impacted by certain negative things. And it's like, and so that you can always, I'm sure as a comedian and not just that joke, but any joke, it's like, if someone wants to be offended or wants to take it to the.

 

 

 

41:49

 

You know, the other side of any subject matter that you're talking about that could have had a negative, you know, like that's probably never ending. I'm sure. And tech talk too is like a, it's just like this crazy chick. You know, there's this side chick. I got my Instagram girls. She's supportive and she's consistent.

 

 

 

42:11

 

And then I go on TikTok and it's like right away. I don't even follow anyone and I got tits in my face and it's loud and it's just crazy. And so I don't put as much effort into that one for sure. Oh, it's definitely a rabbit hole of all sorts of things. It's so like, what happened? What happened? Where are you?

 

 

 

42:38

 

You get in the vortex. You do. Why? I had a few drinks. I'm on my couch. I want 20 more. I'm in my bedroom. I've got 30 more. It's the next day. Yeah. If you get it, if you really, I don't, I, when I first was on there, that would happen to me, I'd be like, wait, I'd look at my clock and it's like, where'd that 40 minutes go? And now I just don't really get on there as much anymore because I don't have 40. I don't want to lose 40 minutes of my life. And.

 

 

 

43:07

 

It's gotten kind of random, like you said, but, but a lot of people are on there. Tik Tok also Instagram, when you open it, the volumes off. Tik Tok. When you open it, the volumes cranked. Yeah. Right. I can't, I can't open the door and have someone just talking to me right away. Right. I need, I need a minute to just, yeah. Let me just, let me see the video with the volume off first. Yeah. You need the doctor to show you the finger, then put the glow. Yeah.

 

 

 

43:37

 

And then put the Vaseline. You need to, you need a little like warmup before they use that fist. By the way, the finger, we still checking cancer with fingers. Can we get a computer? Can we find some technology with the prostate exam? What's one of your like favorite shows? I mean, like, I know you got the special and you know, certainly talk about that, but like maybe what?

 

 

 

44:06

 

your best or most memorable live performance.

 

 

 

44:11

 

Oh, yeah, the perfect set. You know, I had one at a place called Whiskey Bar. I think it was called the Whiskey Bar. It was just it was just a set, but. Pat Noswold was he went on before me, and I mean, it was like Bill Burr and Tiffany Haddish and Pat Oswald. So.

 

 

 

44:39

 

It was exciting and the crowd was incredible. And I remember after my set, like, just like online too, where I just, I post what I like and I don't know what's gonna happen. So I just did my set like normal and Pat Oswald came up and he corners me and everyone's standing around wondering, wanting to hear what he's saying, but only I got to hear it. And he said, I, who are you?

 

 

 

45:09

 

and how have I never heard of you? And he went and broke down one of my jokes and said, this is what's so wonderful about that joke. And he just loved me for that minute. And it was just a really, and I grew up watching Patton Oswalt. I remember being a young comedian and having the DVD of comedians of comedy and watching.

 

 

 

45:39

 

him and Sarah Silverman, Brian Pessane, Zach Galifianakis. I just loved him. And to have that love given back to me and just not saying a word to just keeping my mouth shut and just listening, that to me was a great experience. And I had a great set too. So I felt I didn't feel like it wasn't real.

 

 

 

46:07

 

I mean, I don't have to tell you this. I mean, like as your quasi unofficial non agent, I'm going to tell you, like you should draw on that at any time you feel like, yeah, do I belong in my head in the right path? I got this troll telling me that he thinks this isn't funny. I mean, you have one of your icons like that sat down and like broke down your

 

 

 

46:35

 

You should draw on that and then know like, you know, you belong. Thanks, man. Yeah. Um, I don't know. Do you have a voice in your head that, that you use, you go to at times or a few? Yeah. Two or three. What, what kind of voices it is it like a two or three, right? Me too. No, I mean, it's, you know, I have the, the.

 

 

 

47:01

 

I'm not an emotional person, but I have the little one that's like, right. You know that tone it down. You need to understand how this is impacting people. You need to, and then I have to go. Like, right. You know, you pussy you go, go, go. You know, like, I mean, you know, that's always driving me. Like you got one life to live. Damn it. What are you doing? And it's, you know, he's probably not that much of a drill sergeant, but it's just, you know,

 

 

 

47:30

 

The drill sergeant that voices is a man's it says it's maybe I don't know if it's all men's, but it's definitely a straight man's inner voice that we, we, I use. Yeah. I like that voice. I, a lot of people would say that's okay. Good. Yeah. A lot of people would say it's an unhealthy voice. I know. And it's not the ego voice. That'd be the third one. That it's more of that. I feel like that's the healthy one. That's like keeping me on the straight and narrow and like keeping me.

 

 

 

48:00

 

good father, good dad, good business person, like go, go, go. You've got every opportunity. Don't let anything go. You know, it's more, I'm, but then there's the ego voice of like, for the wrong reasons or like getting caught up in the, oh, you know, this is what Johnny would think about that. And you know, that you really should, you know, if you really want to look the best or do the best or how, you know, like there's that ego voice that I try to like,

 

 

 

48:30

 

I've gotten better. That's what comes with wisdom of time. Like when I was 25, that voice like dominated. You know, not voice. I've put that voice way back, you know, but it happens. Life pushed that voice way back. That too, you know, I have that voice that goes, uh, it used to go, this is the big, this is it, buddy. This is the big moment. This is every, this is gonna, you're going to be get ready.

 

 

 

48:58

 

You're going to be catapulted to stardom right here. This is everything is about to happen for you. And now it's, um, it's the, it's the right voice. It's the chill. This isn't about that. This is just about having fun. It's another step. Yeah. Everything's flattering. You know, I mean, it's the journey, man. I, you know, that's the thing. You know,

 

 

 

49:27

 

The more people I talk to at all different levels and all different fields and like the highs of the highs and lows and the lows, like the journey, like, as soon as you get there, you're not happy anyway. So you need to keep the journey going, you know, and you look, I know everybody's got to eat and you want to, Hey, I'm sure there's a car, nice car, whatever your thing is, like something, you know, like we all want and like, but you know, as soon as everybody loves you.

 

 

 

49:57

 

then somebody, it just means that there's gonna be that many more negative Johnny voices too. So there's always gonna be something. But you gotta enjoy the journey. It's kind of, I think that what I hear from more people and appreciate every moment, and some of this stuff sounds cliche and bullshit, but there's truth to it. What fun is it if you're just.

 

 

 

50:25

 

landing somewhere and never going anywhere else. Like you got to, you know, enjoy every step of the journey. The journey. Yeah. I've been saying, uh, it's all practice a lot. Everything's just practice. And so I, I, um, when I fail, I can say it's practice. And when I succeed, I got to remind myself, it's still just practice. What's, I mean, what's making it now for you?

 

 

 

50:55

 

Like you obviously have crossed some roads, you know, like you're doing some specials, you're out there doing, they got 50,000 followers, roughly on Instagram. You're getting popularity, some things, but like, what are the goals for you? And what does really getting over mean to Lachlan? Like what, what is that like going on? Uh, a late night show. I got it. What is good? You know,

 

 

 

51:24

 

that would make you happy.

 

 

 

51:28

 

I mean, it's funny, like I forced that you brought up the late show and the late late shows and the tonight shows. I pounded on those doors and they just never opened for me for the most part. So I've had to kind of, and that's part of finding my voice too. But for me, so.

 

 

 

51:56

 

You know, it'd be nice to perform, to have sold out shows. To me, that would be great. That would be incredible to, cause I've been performing a lot and I go to these clubs and they take a risk on me because they think I'm funny. And they have to sit there in the back and cut three waitresses on there and give me some stupid excuse like, oh, it's tax time. So.

 

 

 

52:24

 

people aren't really going out this time of year or something's, you know, it's St. Patty's day next week. So people are, you know, they'll just bullshit for me, but it'd be, you know, to me making it would be every, every seat in the house is full, you know, you, uh, we're going to teach you how to do that. The, uh, and it's not, it's not because you're, you got the comedy already.

 

 

 

52:52

 

And now it's like, but you got to bring them with you. That's where the social and everything else, like you got to turn those followers into raving fans and like. Getting them in the circle and keeping giving, you know, you got to have like the law of the nights, you know, like whatever it is, like, but you have to nurture them and then they'll fill it up for you and then they, cause the reality is a lot of those places don't have the marketing arm. Like they'll throw your one video.

 

 

 

53:18

 

that may or they may or may not have been thoughtful about which one they grabbed on their Instagram feed. And Lachlan Patterson will be here this weekend. We're so excited. Their, their marketing sucks. And then, you know, you're standing there and like, you're like, well, why didn't they bring, you know, am I not funny or whatever? Nobody wanted to come. And you thought they're giving you excuses, but when you can start commanding and bringing your own tribe. And it's not, you're not, it doesn't mean that you're going to bring them alone to every show. Like.

 

 

 

53:48

 

You can fill out 5,000 seats wherever, anytime, but hell, if you had, if you could, if you could count on 20% of them, you know, are going to show up or be there or tell people and work for you with you. That's when you get powerful. Okay. Well, I, I, you nailed it with regards to the fact that, uh, their marketing it is often the issue. Yeah. And, um,

 

 

 

54:19

 

I rely so heavily on their marketing and I would love to not. I love that to not even be important. Just send people my marketing. Well, exactly. But you can get there. I mean, so selling out shows, what's like, is there like a theater? Is there like a man, the Holy grill?

 

 

 

54:46

 

I mean, theaters would be incredible. I get the joy and I'm so grateful that I get to open every once in a while for some of my favorites. I just got to open for Daniel Tosh down by you in Florida, in Atlanta, and in Tennessee. And in theaters, he's performed in these massive theaters.

 

 

 

55:11

 

And I'm going to get to open for Nate or but the Margottsy up in Pennsylvania next month. But so so yeah, I want to I want bigger audiences. I'd love theaters. I'm trying to take it step by step. You got to I got to fill the bars that I'm in right now first. Yeah, I start doing that. But that's always I mean, I've had the goal of theaters for.

 

 

 

55:41

 

10 years, I've been writing that in my journal. And so, I mean, I was in the last comic standing a while back and I made it to the top five finalists. So we toured across the country doing theaters, the top five finalists. And so we did like 60 theaters and I just was hooked ever since then. I love...

 

 

 

56:09

 

I loved how they look, I loved how they smell. I just love walking out on a massive stage and seeing that empty room and being like, it's just so hard. It feels so good when they're all set. And then, you know. Have you, why don't, that seems like a pretty big accomplishment. Like why, is there a reason that you step, like that's not in your bio, like you don't have that like anywhere.

 

 

 

56:38

 

Is it purposeful that you don't like attach to that at all? Last comic standing? Yeah. I think it's in my bio. I mean, that's the other thing. Uh, what, what's, what do I want? Well, I'd like a bigger credit than that. That's my biggest credit. Yeah. So I'm searching for something bigger than that, but right now that is the biggest thing that I've done. And it was, you know, that's coming up on probably nine years ago. You were top five in that. How many people like.

 

 

 

57:08

 

was the potential, you know, number? Well, they start, they start, they started with a thousand or they said thousands. Um, when I arrived, okay. So I was, I was walking dogs. I was just like, uh, I had stopped doing the road because I couldn't, I couldn't, it wasn't paying enough. Yeah. Um, and I was making money, dog walking.

 

 

 

57:32

 

and just doing shows in LA and being home. And I was excited to be home and doing local shows.

 

 

 

57:41

 

So I stopped doing it and then they asked me to come audition for Last Comic Standing and I told you my auditioning track record. I didn't want to do it. So I ignored it and then my agent called and said, you going to go to this audition? I said, nah. And he goes, can I ask you this? And I said, sure. And he goes, what are you doing? What else are you doing? And I said, that's a good point. I'll go. So I went and I was in a room. They put me in a room with 100 comedians.

 

 

 

58:11

 

in a giant room and they just had cameras all over the room and they just watched us and filmed it. And it was uh it felt horrible like I look around there's so many comedians and they all seemed very confident that they were going to win this show and I didn't I didn't feel that way. I felt like my comedy career was you know not that good. Like I said I had submitted to all the late shows and no one got back to me.

 

 

 

58:41

 

And so I had all these, I had put in all this effort into this business and given up on it and now it was dragging me back in with all these young, confident comedians. And

 

 

 

58:59

 

And I went in the audition and it was so hard. It was three people or four people in the audience. It was the producers. Producers and they were in their books, just looking like this. And each comedian would go, I want up there and do their bits. And...

 

 

 

59:23

 

It was like every, pardon me, every show I had been doing in LA. So it was easy. It was like, Oh, I'm just doing a shitty show. Okay. Well, that's what I do anyway. So I was in my, I was in my element. It was very comfortable. Yeah. So it was like perfect. If there's anything, if there's anything,

 

 

 

59:53

 

You'd been really at home. Yeah. And so they asked me to come back and they just kept every week. They just kept asking me to come back. And that went on for, I mean, the budget on that thing was incredible. I met, I mean, they had a, every week they had a celebrity, um, yes. So I met, I got, I got to be mentored by, uh, oh man, I got to be mentored by Howie Mandel.

 

 

 

01:00:22

 

Jeff Ross, JB Smoove was the host. I loved JB Smoove. Chick from Curb Your Enthusiasm. And I forgot her name, unfortunately. You like Larry David, like that kind of stuff? Yeah, that's my kind of humor. That, I like it. He writes like me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have the same, I have various, many of the same experience.

 

 

 

01:00:52

 

Complaints about society as he does for sure. Most of them don't get outside the house. Thankfully. Yeah. He, he has an opportunity to the vehicle to share these things safely. But a lot of my opinions about things have to stay behind these four walls. Yeah. Well, yeah. Maybe that's the problem. Yeah. Agitational content.

 

 

 

01:01:21

 

Thank you. I definitely have some written. So I don't know. You can text them to me. I'll tell you. I'll be honest with you. I'll be like, okay, not quite that agitation. Whoa. Or, uh, yes, I'll get, I'll send you clips before I post them. Sure. Thank you.

 

 

 

01:01:43

 

But still, you know, top five of last comic standing. I mean, top, top three. I got through the, yeah, they did a fine. The final episode, they just picked one of three. Okay. So I've made it to the last episode. That's how I put it. Dude. That's I, I know that I imagine being a professional, you know, the like, okay, that's all the footnote. I mean, it's still big fucking deal though. You know, it was.

 

 

 

01:02:13

 

It was awesome. I, people were shouting at me as walking down the street and in the airport. I remember having an issue with my bank and I called and the guy goes, is this Lachlan Patterson from last comic standing? And I'm like, yeah. And he goes, don't worry. I'll take care of it. Finally got that celebrity treatment. Yeah. It was awesome. I want that. I want that again. I want it back because it faded right. Because it wasn't.

 

 

 

01:02:41

 

my audience, it was NBC last comic standing's audience. And so I understand that with time there, you know, next season's coming. They have a new season, a fresh new set of comedians. That audience needs to move on because they're really, they're fans of the show. Yeah. I've been to argue with you though. You it's called borrowed interest. Please. All scared leverage. There's a, you carry that with you. It never goes away.

 

 

 

01:03:10

 

And anytime that that shows on, you should be maximizing in it. And you might go, Oh, I'm just, I'm using old accolades or what? No, it's like, it doesn't go away. You know, do you think that, uh, do you think Michael Jackson would, you know, like he would throw away one of his hits because it was 30 years later, you know, like, or anybody, or let's say vanilla ice, do you think he's happy or upset that he had that one hit, you know, like.

 

 

 

01:03:40

 

I mean, so it never diminishes the impact or what it took for that to happen. No matter how much time passes, but you can either choose to leverage it or not. And so, right. Yeah. You're in leverage too, is gratitude. And I think they go hand in hand. So, um, yeah, it's, uh,

 

 

 

01:04:10

 

It's on my bio, you know, it's the number one thing still. Yeah. So I, it's on there. I loved, dude, I met, I met so many great people.

 

 

 

01:04:24

 

I feel like we get taught for hours, man. I think we've, uh, you know, we've talked for exactly an hour. I think I've got you over the time limit and, uh, what's, um, tell, tell everybody that's listening. We'll have all this in the show notes, you know, all the places they can keep up with you, your website and all those things. Sure. Yeah. Uh, Lachlan Patterson.com for all of my show dates.

 

 

 

01:04:50

 

Where are you going to be? People, I'll post a video. Come to Texas. I'll be like, dude, I was just in Texas last week. Um, come to, yeah. People say, come to Vancouver. I doesn't make it for a month doing shows. Come to South Carolina. Please. I would love to. You have, uh, what's this? What's the comedy club there? I'm going to actually, the comedy zone is Greenville. The comedy zone in Greenville. I performed there and I want to come back.

 

 

 

01:05:18

 

So I am going to do that. I'm going to make that effort today. I've done that for people when they say, I'll even show a show here. I got this, you know, social house. We'll have a special showing. We've had comedians here. We'll have a one night only Lachlan Patterson will fill this mug out. I'd love that. I would love that. I will come for that. If you want to do that or, or I'll reach out to the comedy zone. I'll get your number and we let's talk. Yeah. We'll talk about all that.

 

 

 

01:05:47

 

I really appreciate your brother. I know, um, people are going to go follow you and go take it out. They're going to make the world a better place cause they're going to be smiling. Thanks, man. Thank you for all your positive feedback and, and help them lift me up for, cause I gotta go carry a bunch of shit around the house right now. There you go. Hey guys, you don't want to find us the radcast.com search for Lachlan Patterson. That's L A C H L A N.

 

 

 

01:06:16

 

And look, do yourself a favor, go find him on Instagram. It'll make your day cause you'll be laughing and you know what you'll do. You hit that share button a hundred times and you'll go, damn Ryan was right. I like being right because lock is funny for Ryan offered. I'll see you next time. To listen or watch full episodes, visit us on the web at the Radcast.com or follow us on social media at our Instagram account.

 

 

 

01:06:40

 

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