Ryan Alford [00:00:23] Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to the latest edition of the Radcast Open Mic Edition, I think it’s number 2. I'm joined by my good friend and Digital Media Manager, talented actor, extraordinaire, Josh Hill. And of course, the lovely Riley Clark, producer of The Radcast. And also multitalented. 

Reiley Clark [00:00:53] Yes, obviously. It’s all we have here. 

Ryan Alford [00:00:56] Hey, Merry Christmas week. 

Ryan Alford [00:01:01] It's here three days from now. Christmas Eve Eve. I'm not sure when this will release, but we'll go out before Christmas. So Merry Christmas Eve to everyone listening. And yes, Merry Christmas week to all of us here at Radical. It's getting cool and cold out. They might even be calling for snow potentially late Thursday night as Santa's sleigh is rounding about in Greenville. 

Josh Hill [00:01:29] I might have my second white Christmas? 

Ryan Alford [00:01:33] Yes, so we'll see. South Carolina doesn't get much snow at all, much less on Christmas. So fingers crossed, that’ll be nice. 

Reiley Clark [00:01:42] I'm kind of used to snow. I'm being honest. I've been having a love-hate relationship with the weather because normally I'm used to cold weather and I'm used to snow being on the ground in some capacity. And so I'm like OK, so there's no snow. 

Ryan Alford [00:02:01] You get four seasons here. It gets cold, but you don't get much snow. 

Reiley Clark [00:02:05] But I'm also like, I love the warm weather. I like the fact that it's going to be 61 today. 

Reiley Clark [00:02:10] That's the irony and I can't blame you, 

Ryan Alford [00:02:14] 2 days before Christmas it'll be 61 and then you wake up Christmas morning and the highest is 38 or something. So like people think it doesn't get cold in South Carolina, it gets cold. Just don't get much frozen precipitation. 

Josh Hill [00:02:25] It's only cold from like eight a.m. to nine and then you are back to short sleeves.

Ryan Alford [00:02:31] That is the hard part. It’s like heavy jacket in the morning and a t-shirt in the afternoon. Yeah, so everyone geared up ready for Christmas? 

Josh Hill [00:02:44] All my presents are in. Just got a couple little toys for the small nephew's couple of Christmas cards to get. But otherwise I'm set. 

Reiley Clark [00:02:54] Good. You Riley?

Reiley Clark [00:02:55] I'm on top of it, but it's like my family in West Virginia, like I sent them stuff and then like my family in Atlanta. I'm going down to Atlanta for Christmas, though. So I was like, give them their stuff. But it's weird. Like doing like everyone's doing their own kind of thing. It's like that weird part of growing up when you realize that, like you all stuck to your own. And your own Christmases, it's like that reality kind of has hit. 

Ryan Alford [00:03:24] Like for me it's been interesting. So growing up we always went to my grandmother's. They have all passed now, but my mom's mom and my dad's mom are very similar. They grew up in Greenville and we'd go to their houses Christmas, I think one was Christmas Eve and one was Christmas Day and might be reversing that and we always did that. And now we go to my mom's, who's now my kid's grandmother. So we do that. But Christmas Day we have and even Thanksgiving Day sometimes, we've kind of taken back over a little bit to where the kids are hosting more or the kids being in this instance, like myself and my sister or something like. I don't want to say that family is in. It seems to be more condensed than it used to be growing up. It was like cousins and not just like in covid. You're like any time like the last few years. And I don't know if that's a sign of the times or just a sign of my family. 

Josh Hill [00:04:36] It's on and off for our family. Like, sometimes we'll have, like, extended cousins, like both sets of grandparents together, like every probably every like five years about like this, these in between months where it's just like my immediate family and then my aunts and uncles or stuff are doing their own thing elsewhere. We're kind of like hit or miss. 

Ryan Alford [00:04:56] And I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing. In some ways I feel closer and you reserve more time for your immediate family. But then you do feel this a little bit disconnect when you see a cousin that growing up. I saw them at least three or four times a year. Now, it's like once every two years. And so I don't know, that's been a change, I think. I don't know if it's what they say, the erosion of family that's going on or if it's more the immediate family is getting in and holding on to traditions and having a tighter tradition like nuclear family because we found the balance like going to my mom's who's in Columbia. We did that this past weekend. And we had a good time. And I wouldn't we wouldn't change that. But I've gotten to where I'm a little selfish with my family's time around the definitive holiday itself. OK, like, I'm fine if my mom and dad want to come and see the kids. But I remember growing up, I'd wake up, open all my gifts. All I wanted to do was play with them and we're piling into the car to go somewhere all day on the holiday itself. And like, I don't know if it's that or just everyone's doing this more, but like, I'm being more selfish with our family’s time. Like mom and dad, the grandparents, they can come to us on Christmas Day. So like if you want to come sit with the kids because they're going to enjoy it, we're going to chill. We'd love to have you - the more the merrier. Like it's not that I don't want anyone to come. Absolutely. But we're going to kind of hold on to our traditions and not be rushing somewhere the day of the holiday. 

Reiley Clark [00:06:35] We were kind of like that growing up too. I mean, we would always go to my grandparents and then but it was the same thing. Like you'd wake up, do the Christmas, do the presents and everything, and then you do the same thing. We'd get in the car and then immediately go to our grandparents and half the stuff. We could bring one thing with us, but like half this stuff is still in the house. And you're like, “OK, well, like, when do I get to go back and play with this?” And you're going to your grandparents, you have the whole thing there, which is awesome. But like it's just funny that, like, you can just change. And I mean, I remember my mom and dad, they were selfish for a while, like, they kind of got to the point where they're like, “OK, yeah, you guys can come to us now.” Like it was kind of the same thing. So I feel like that's almost I don't know, I felt like that was kind of a theme I saw even with some of our cousins and stuff. We saw that kind of stuff, too. That was just kind of like our system of doing it. But now it's just different because now my sister's married and she's in Utah. And then my dad's in Atlanta and then my mom and brother in West Virginia. 

Reiley Clark [00:07:41] It’s spread out. 

Reiley Clark [00:07:42] And I'm obviously in South Carolina so..

Ryan Alford [00:07:45] What are you doing? Christmas Day? 

Reiley Clark [00:07:47] Christmas Day, I'll be in Atlanta with my dad and his wife.

Ryan Alford [00:07:53] Josh, you’ll be with your parents? 

Josh Hill [00:07:55] Yeah. Just family in town. 

Ryan Alford [00:07:59] I will say like jumping ahead here a little bit. I did see a commercial. We'll bring it back to marketing for a second. We got personal there for a minute, but, did you just see the Christmas vacation spoof Rob Ford with Chevy Chase apparently. They reenacted the entire lighting of the outside lights. I was with Chevy Chase, a lot of the actors from the movie, the notion of the electric car. Powering it all. Yeah. 

Reiley Clark [00:08:31] So good commercial?

Ryan Alford [00:08:36] I enjoyed it as a definitive lifelong Chevy Chase fan. 

Josh Hill [00:08:39] Big nostalgia hit right there. 

Ryan Alford [00:08:40] Yes. It was; good timing. 

Josh Hill [00:08:42] So I'd say that's a part of our family tradition is the Christmas vacation viewing. Have you watched it yet this year? 

Ryan Alford [00:08:49] It's been on AMC or something. I've already caught it like three times. I'll watch Christmas Story the day of Christmas. I haven't watched that yet. I'll keep that secret until like Christmas Day, maybe Christmas Eve if we're home or I think we’ll go to our in-laws for some part of Christmas Eve. But we'll see. But I will not keep sacred until like Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, because I'm going to watch it like five times replayed on TBS over and over. It’s readily available, but. That's the one part of like five parts of linear TV that hold true sports, some news but that's fading fast for me too. And then like stuff like annual specials -- we'll catch it, but it's definitely not worth the 80 dollars a month or whatever I'm spending on it. I'm not a new year's resolution guy. Like, I'm motivated. I like to think I'm motivated all the time to just get done what needs to get done. But January, I do have like how many services do I need to cut that I'm not paying for? I think I have seven gym memberships. This is out of control. Some of us don't even live in town anymore. I think in New York one, I think I live in New York City membership from like six years ago. It's really cheap out there. But it's like I just say: You never know? I think I convinced myself every time I looked at it and went “you might go back, it's really not that much like, what are you doing?” 

Reiley Clark [00:10:23] I don't even have a gym membership. In my apartment, I basically just have a gym. Like if I need to go to the gym, I can just be right there. But it's funny, yeah. 

Josh Hill [00:10:37] My gym is not open at the apartments to new but I've never actually had cable my whole life. 

Reiley Clark [00:10:44] Wow. While even growing up?

Ryan Alford [00:10:47] The rabbit ears?

Josh Hill [00:10:48] We had rabbit ears and the switch to the digital antenna. That was it. Just watched movies, played games. 

Ryan Alford [00:10:58] I’m definitely a child of  cable. 

Josh Hill [00:11:01] I mean once I got to middle school, high school YouTube was my life. 

Ryan Alford [00:11:09] Well that's my kid's life now. That's all it was. I mean you two kids are -- my I don't know how many hours a week. It's just it, it's all in downtime. And yes. They play outside. But when they're having their downtime, our four year old watches YouTube Kids. And he's doing voice searched for everything. 

Josh Hill [00:11:43] That kid has so much money. 

Ryan Alford [00:11:45] Yeah, multi millionaire. Well, we're helping his views. Let me tell you, the Alford family's contributing at least seven dollars a week to his bottom line. Yeah, with all the video views. So, what do they get like a few cents a view or something? I don't know. But it adds up and you get fifty billion views like that kid's gotten. That kid's going to be like when he's like 20, he's either going to be brilliant and like a scientist or he's going to be washed up.

Reiley Clark [00:12:17] I knew there's going to be a new generation of kids that were like young influencers and young, like social media stars that are then like, you're going to see where they're at and be like, “what?”

Josh Hill [00:12:31] We have enough decades of Disney child actors to know that, like, if you're sick, you're the parents of, like a famous kid, like get them in therapy ASAP right now. No matter how much it costs to do it, it's going to be worth it. 

Ryan Alford [00:12:46] Exactly. I am having my first one had a nice sugar cookie. I felt very Christmassy. Kaitlynn on our team made some delicious cookies. And I'm having my first cup of coffee here in eight months. So I'm an energy drink guy and I don't have too many vices, but it's a vice and I know it's not healthy. But it's like, I give up a lot of other things. And so just fuck off if you don't like my energy drinks. But that's how I really feel about it. But I am having a delicious cup of coffee here. 

Josh Hill [00:13:17] I like you're not like a big sweets guy and then you're not a big coffee guy, but you decided somehow to combine them into one.  You are like “I'll do it at the same time. I'm doing them both caffeine and sweet drinks”. 

Ryan Alford [00:13:31] Yes, but, you can't be like I'm that guy. I work out. I watch what I eat a lot of the time, but like, I get you have to give yourself these moments. I don't sweat during the holiday week. It's gotta be a lifestyle. And so if I want to eat four thousand calories a day, the week of Christmas or the week of Thanksgiving it is fine. Right? And I don't like. Oh God. Oh my God. I just enjoy it. And because I know I'll be right back on the wagon next week. Yeah, but I'll work. But, subconsciously I'll work out like thirty minutes longer every day this week probably. Not because I'm counting the calories, but weirdly enough you start eating more and like if I eat like a bunch of sweets, sometimes I get my best workout because I actually have stored up carbs that I wouldn’t normally have. Like it's at least I convince myself of that. This morning I had a great workout and I attribute it to last night we did movie night with the kids and we watched Safety, which was really good. It was a Disney movie about Clemson, about Ray Ray McCarthy, who brought his younger son. Their mother had a substance abuse problem and was in rehab, and he had an eleven year old brother who was home while she was going through that. And Ray Ray had gotten a full ride to Clemson football and played football. 

Reiley Clark [00:15:09] I'm guessing, is the true story, right? 

Ryan Alford [00:15:11] Yeah, totally true. And this is like 15 years ago, he would be on Oprah Winfrey stuff, but his 11 year old brother moved with him secretly into the dorms and he was hiding him for a while. But then the university found out about it. They supported him and he got a waiver from the NCAA to let it happen. So he was taking care of his brother while also going to school and going to class. So true story. It was like a commercial for Clemson, though, because I admire you being a Clemson grad at a club. I enjoyed it. My wife was crying next to me, like we're in the theater room and like the boys are like high fives again, like, it was a real feel good movie. Nicole is bawling next to me. But it was actually, I will say this like, look, I have a potty mouth half the time and definitely not around my kids, but so I don't I'm not like sitting on a soap box saying this, but no curse words, no sex. But it was a very enjoyable movie. And so, like watching with my kids, I'm like, they can still make movies like this and be appropriate for kids and adults and everybody feel good about it. And yeah, I being a Clemson fan and that helped. That's a feel good movie even if you didn't like her. I know I was in there going “man how many more recruits are we going to get from this movie”.Really good movie. Acting was good. Yeah, it was definitely the cheese moments here and there, like any Disney movie happy. But I was thoroughly entertaining and so I highly recommend Safety. So that was good last night. And good video watching from you guys when we were talking about some TikTok videos before we started the episode. 

Reiley Clark [00:16:57] Yes, I feel like you have a few on your mind. I can just see it. 

Josh Hill [00:17:07] My feed is a mess. I mean there's the standard journey of the TikTok user. These are nicknames that have been created by TikTok people about where you are in your algorithmic journey. You always start off on straight TikTok, then you'll probably find your way into cooking TikTok or some kind of weird hobby TikTok, maybe dancing. Yeah, that's all part of like the straight TikTok. 

Ryan Alford [00:17:33] Dancing Tik Tok is definitely on my feed. I get girls and guys like it's all dancing. 

Josh Hill [00:17:38] You spent enough time there then you start getting into your alternative Tik Tok. This one is where people call it either by TikTok or alt TikTok . And then you get into l even more niche things. But now I'm like pouring spaghetti on their face and then that's it. Or it's just like really peaceful music and then like something's on fire. Oh it's all just this is all surrealist absurdism. It's beautiful. It is endlessly entertaining and some of the ones who sit in the back of my head and just play rent free. Rent free. It brings me joy. 

Ryan Alford [00:18:21] I do watch a fair amount of it now. It's gotten into me. It's slowly creeping into my consumption pattern here. But is it a sign of the ADD-ism of the times or is it deeper and wider than that. 

Josh Hill [00:18:44] I think both. OK, I think I mean it's fun to just have complete control over the entertainment. It's like you don't have to be as patient as you do with, like a movie or even a show. Sometimes, like if I'm spending a lot of time, I'll take calls like watch a 20 minute episode and I'm like, “this is taking forever.” But I think it's fun.

Ryan Alford [00:19:07] I am finding myself doing that. It's a little bit the ones that really get to it. I'm like, OK, alright, that's either funny or informing or whatever. And there's ones where they're trying real, real hard and I swipe up.

Josh Hill [00:19:19] Like random stuff, like no context, no meaning, no anything. And then it will be copywriting tips. And then it's like a Pyrex collector talking about a piece that someone found. And then it's back to the random stuff. 

Ryan Alford [00:19:40] Where did you get our Ad Gab clips on mine or Radical's TikTok? We will see how it goes. I mean, they're short, and they’re informative. 

Josh Hill [00:19:52] It’s got to be some parallel here of like it's easier to eat a bag of chips over and over than it is to let go cook a full meal and yes, it is how to eat it. It's the same thing. 

Reiley Clark [00:20:02] I do love cooking TikTok, even though I am not a cook. I just send it to my boyfriend. I'm like, oh, here's a recipe. No, I love cooking TikTok. Gay TikTok cracks me up. Couple TikTok, I love it. And then I love just random hobbies -- and Harry Potter TikTok. I have to talk about Harry Potter TikTok. It gives me a lot of joy and there's just so many just insightful jokes. Are you a Harry Potter person? 

Ryan Alford [00:20:49] I have a confession. 

Reiley Clark [00:20:51] Stop. Oh, no. 

Ryan Alford [00:20:53] I haven't read a single page or watched a single movie of Harry Potter ever. And look and I like, look, this is going to be even stranger. I like sci-fi. I like wizardry type stuff but never a page of the book or a second of a movie. I'm probably one of like, probably what was that like five percent of the of America. 

Josh Hill [00:21: 21} I didn't watch them all until college. 

Ryan Alford [00:21:22] I was on my radar. How could it not be on your radar during that whole and it's still popular. But during the craze of it all, it was on my radar and I was just kind of annoyed by it. I think it was a stage. I don't remember how old I was at that time, but I think it is a little juvenile-ish or silly or something. I might have been in my early mid twenties, like when the first one maybe. I don't know how long it's been 20 years since the first one.

Josh Hill [00:21:53] I'm a Lord of the Rings guy through and through. 

Ryan Alford [00:21:56] See, I like Lord of the Rings. I did enjoy that. Read all the books when I was younger and then all the movies were great. And so I felt like that was at least on the surface, having not watched any Harry Potter, I can't say this seemed more serious. I didn't want to read the books because those were part of reading growing up. So I had that reference versus Harry Potter. So I admit that that might have started the bias. But then when the movies came out and they were around the same time frame, I don't know the order, but I was like Lord Of The Rings just seemed more obvious. It's all make believe, it's all fantasy, but it seemed more serious. 

Reiley Clark [00:22:46] Well, I think the reason why is because obviously Harry Potter is following three students throughout their time in like primary school, basically through college age, essentially. And so, like, obviously, you do have the juvenile sense of growing up, like incorporated in the movies where I feel like Lord of the Rings, you're pretty much dealing with mature adult-ish, whatever it is like. But I feel like you're dealing with just like a different character development. Obviously, you have Dumbledore, you have Hagrid, you have the older adults that are still answering their own opinion and their own character development throughout the movies. But I don't know, it's just something about Harry Potter that's just like if I don't, like when it comes out every July around the 31st, because that's like Harry Potter's birthday or whatever, normally they play the series on channels. And so I'm like, oh, yes. And Christmas is a marathon. Like Christmas or Halloween without a Harry Potter marathon just doesn't feel right. 

Josh Hill [00:24:05] I get the feeling that Harry Potter feels more franchisee than Lord of the Rings did. I feel like it's the same thing as a Marvel movie versus The Dark Knight, like they’re both superhero movies. But like I feel like they went like, oh, we're going to make art. 

Ryan Alford [00:24:22] And I gave up on the superheroes and I loved The Dark Knight. I am not like a franchise-hater person. I just feel like it gets cookie cutter. 

Josh Hill [00:24:38] It does. You can tell it's more like a profitable thing than an artistic move. I feel like some director or producer said this quote one time where he was like, “I don't make I don't make movies to make money. I make money to make more movies.” 

Ryan Alford [00:24:55] I like Joker. I mean, the writing with that. And everything was just so great. And even, Christian Bale's Joker was great, but I think that was part of The Dark Knight. 

Josh Hill [00:25:07] That was part of that whole I mean, and they had that like I think the Harry Potter version of The Joker would have definitely been in the Suicide Squad, Jared Leto. 

Ryan Alford [00:25:19] It didn't. And that did nothing for me. Like, I saw the preview and I was like I have no interest in that. 

Reiley Clark [00:25:27] Yeah. I didn't even watch Suicide Squad.

Ryan Alford [00:25:30] I didn't either, but I could tell I wouldn't have liked it. Turn off the reviews from the people that I actually trust. The reviews were like “pass”. 

Josh Hill [00:25:38] Oh my my movie expert friends shout out to you guys. They're like, I don't even watch it. 

Reiley Clark [00:25:44] Yeah, it seemed rough, but I mean we're talking about movies. We're in the holiday swing. Like what would be your ranking of holiday movies. Like if we had to go through the typical list. If we're throwing Alphen there, Polar Express, Die Hard. It's a wonderful movie, which Josh and I admitted that we actually see it. But what's your ranking of them?

Ryan Alford [00:26:26] Like I have a tie. It would be because for different reasons, it's Christmas. Chevy Chase is my all time favorite actor, especially 80s, 90s Chevy Chase. And I'm appreciative even of stuff he's done more recent in his older years, he's gotten a little more like it was. He tried too hard, I think late 90s, early 2000s. I don't know what happened to him. He was trying to be the character instead of just being the character the way he was in Caddyshack and Fletch. Those are like two of my two favorite movies ever, silly humor that I miss. I don't know why we can't make movies like that anymore. I digress on that. But so Christmas vacation for humor for probably Chevy's last movie where he played that character. And I felt like he really didn't have to try too hard, like he just was natural. But then A Christmas Story for the more sentimental child in us. It was still funny and entertaining. And so it's Christmas Eve. I want Christmas Vacation, Christmas Day, I want Christmas Story. 

Josh Hill [00:27:39] I get that I love Christmas Vacation and it's kind of like spot one or two for me. But I think How The Grinch Stole Christmas is my top, Jim Carrey. Oh, I love him because I feel like it checks all the boxes of the house, the little sentimental, sweet moments. And then it has the funny and then it has a star character. I might put that slightly above Christmas vacation. Oh, God, it's very close. 

Ryan Alford [00:28:07] Where's the shotgun? That's the most product of the being. A 20 something year old I've ever heard Josh say is the Grinch Stole Christmas being a top movie ever for Christmas? 

Josh Hill [00:28:33] There's just some classic lines. 

Ryan Alford [00:28:37] It's not. And I like the movie. I really do. So this is it. I love Jim Carrey, so like I do. But just to even remotely put it above, Christmas Vacation is hurting my heart. I can even understand Elf over it. Elf, I enjoyed it quite a bit. We watched it the other night. 

Josh Hill [00:28:54] I would put Elf under it. I still like Elf, and Polar Express for probably my next two slots for sure. For sure. Cue in the Malcolm In The Middle like meme of “the future is now, old man”. Christmas Story, I honestly did not see that until probably 2017 like I was in college. 

Ryan Alford [00:29:23] And now that you've seen it probably several times 

Josh Hill [00:29:26] Once. It didn't become a thing, it was never a family thing. It never became a thing after I watched it. 

Ryan Alford [00:29:34] You need to really watch it this year. This is your job.

Josh Hill [00:29:37] That's your second bullet in your second casing at the shot. 

Reiley Clark [00:29:42] I'm just really I'm putting you through it right now. 

Reiley Clark [00:29:48] So get ready for my list.

Reiley Clark [00:29:50] OK, here we go. 

Reiley Clark [00:29:58] I would say these would be my top five like Polar Express, A Christmas Carol with Jim Carrey. That was so well done and that was so good. Christmas Vacation and 

Ryan Alford [00:30:20] What was number one?

Ryan Alford [00:30:41] Muppets were much smarter humor than people gave it credit for. They were very witty if you really paid attention, 

Josh Hill [00:30:52] I think that was very formative. And my humor today, the Muppets. 

Ryan Alford [00:30:57] The Great Muppet adventure or whatever. 

Josh Hill [00:31:01] That was the Muppet Caper. And then, All The Muppets Take Manhattan was also really good.. 

Ryan Alford [00:31:07] I really liked it quite a bit. But I think now it's also a product of Sesame Street and all that stuff. Which is all in the same vein like, 

Josh Hill [00:31:17] The greats got to study the greats. 

Ryan Alford [00:31:21] Fraggle Rock? Anyone?

Josh Hill [00:31:25] That was a regular renting for me at the gallery. 

Ryan Alford [00:31:29] That was all HBO original I believe, or it started out on HBO was like the first time we started getting like we had cable and we started getting HBO is like Fraggle Rock was on and it was like, oh yeah, best kids show ever on a premium movie channel.  

Josh Hill [00:31:55] We ventured way back. We left you in the dust here. 

Ryan Alford [00:32:20] How about Christmas Story? Is it in your list? Are you like Josh and you've watched it once? 

Reiley Clark [00:32:25] I haven't even watched it once. 

Ryan Alford [00:32:31] What the hell is going on around here? Our listeners that are probably closer to my age are going, “what in the world is happening on The Radcast?” 

Reiley Clark [00:32:39] This is how I feel about Harry Potter. I will still come back to this now that I know this fact about you. I'm like, I'm going to say this all the time now.

Josh Hill [00:32:49] He gets a BB gun and then they eat a duck and then there's like a leg lamp. And it’s Christmas.

Reiley Clark [00:32:52] Doesn't that sound amazing? It's like what am I? That sounds like Tik Tok. 

Ryan Alford [00:32:59] Before it was TikTok. 

Josh Hill [00:33:01] One of my best friends doesn't like Lord of the Rings. He was like, the second movie is just talking trees. 

Ryan Alford [00:33:07] That's some truth to that. 

Josh Hill [00:33:08] But he's wrong. 

Ryan Alford [00:33:11] But look, Christmas story is the age old, when you're a kid and you want like, whether it's the BB gun that he wanted, but like you, you want this gift. And if you can relate and you grow up and like he wanted the Red Rider, BB Gun, and he was obsessed about it and he was trying to tell his parents he thought he would shoot his eye out, like all the stuff like and he wouldn't think he was going to get it. So he's dropping all these hints. And then there's the humor of just the time period. They have a bully at school. They have the strangeness of school in the 50s or 60s when this is all taking place. But it's more the nostalgia of growing up. We all had that gift that we wanted at a certain age when we really were into Christmas time between the years of 8 and 12 years old, somewhere in there, depending on who you are. Some kids like to grow it faster than others but you have this gift you really want and you drop it hits and you're obsessed about it, like you are waiting for Christmas because you want to get this gift. I think there's that that insight, then just the time period stuff for that and then the zaniness of the dad, who's like way too old to have kids say it's like, as I remember the actor, he seems like fifty eight years old and he's got a twelve year old and a six year old. And it's like he started late in life. But nonetheless, for someone in the fifties who normally had kids and they're like twenty three years old or something. And, and so the nostalgia of all that and then his dad and the leg lamp, the major award is what it was called; he thought it won a major award and comes in this big box that says it's fragile and he says it's frigidly, it must be Italian. 

Reiley Clark [00:34:58] Can I be really embarrassed and just admit that before you started explaining it, I almost was like, oh, this must be that movie about the Christmas Shoes. 

Reiley Clark [00:35:06] That’s completely different movie in of itself

Reiley Clark [00:35:10]That's the one where the. Sick and the boy was right, and he goes and buys this 

Josh Hill [00:35:16] isn't like a song, 

Reiley Clark [00:35:18] I think it is also I want to buy these shoes. 

Ryan Alford [00:35:23] So just to close out my thoughts on this. Die Hard was good in its day. It became very formulaic. The first one was very good. I remember liking it; it always came out during Christmas. A lot of the blockbusters before this year obviously were coming out Christmas time. The new Star Wars movies have been releasing at Christmas time and stuff. But it was a classic, but I can never think of it as a Christmas movie, even though the time period within the movie was typically Christmas time. I think it might have been a couple of ventures in the franchise that went off of that. But typically speaking, it was Christmas time in the movie when these things were happening and it released around Christmas time. I always seem to keep my genre cleaner than that. Yeah, it's Christmas and needs to be about Christmas. 

Reiley Clark [00:36:15] Yes, we have other things that are just kind of like upcoming that are, I just think entertaining to mention. I mean, I think it's entertaining to mention Kylie Jenner was confronted for wearing fur by a bunch of activists in Beverly Hills, like celebrity drama, whatever. There are events going on and things like that. But I mean that's just kind of like the rest of the stuff that's funny and circulating around. 

Ryan Alford [00:36:46] What's funny to me and I have no issue with the Kardashians and all that. I actually admire them for taking advantage of this time period with their likeness and celebrity and all that stuff. So no ill will, but it's always funny to me that these celebrities are activists about all these things and then it kind of comes back on them because they're wearing fur, because they've got more money. They know what to do with it. And it's like when it's convenient, they're an activist when they want to wear something really controversial, they do.

Reiley Clark [00:37:21] Isn't that the word, though? Convenient. Like it's like when it works well for them is when they'll project whatever image message they're trying to get out there. 

Josh Hill [00:37:31] I mean like when did she not get to do what she wants. 

Ryan Alford [00:37:35] What was new about that! 

Josh Hill [00:37:40] Something about the fur attacks feels very like 2002 to me. It makes me think of 101 Dalmatians. It's just very, it's just like very old PETA. I'm imagining someone in my jeans throwing up paint bucket of blood.

Reiley Clark [00:37:57] No, there was this one time I was in New York with my mom and we were just walking around New York City. We were just walking around the city. We were at this diner and we heard like all this commotion outside, whatever. And there are a bunch of guys on bicycles just riding down Broadway. And we were like, oh, like, obviously it's New York. We're like, what is it like, what's going on? Looked outside. But there are a hundred naked dudes riding bicycles, going down the street. And I was young and my mom was like, “oh my gosh, do not look”. And she covered my eyes. Meanwhile, like she was like, what was that like? She was like, those are PETA activists, PETA activists, penis activists like it. But it was very funny. And any time I see something that's like that now, that's my mind immediately goes to that image of, like those guys that were just like waving on the bicycles. 

Ryan Alford [00:39:00] That’s very New York. It's not just the guys flopping around, it’s also like women activists with their shirts off for breast cancer or something like that. 

Josh Hill [00:39:10] That was a whole TikTok trend for a while of what moment did you experience that made you decide it was time to leave New York? And are these people telling stories of just the crazy stuff that they came across and they're like, “I don't need to be around this”. 

Reiley Clark [00:39:28] I feel like you probably have stories like that low key. 

Ryan Alford [00:39:30] There were some moments. Like you never knew what was odd about New York City is like in some ways you would go weeks on end. It felt very normal, like you can all get on the subway and go to work and people are going to work. And there's the city stuff. And then bam, Kristen from the vampire movies is running down. Almost runs me over in the middle of the road. That was Kristen Stewart. Almost runs me over. She's being chased by paparazzi. Right outside of my condo and almost runs me over like knocks. Almost like knocked me down on my I'm a big dude, like I'm like, but she's running full force. And I was like, She's like, I'm trying to get away from this camera. She was running from the camera guy in the middle of New York City. So that's what I'm saying. It's like you just never know in New York City, no one where a celebrity is going to be, but much less Kristen Stewart running from this was like in the middle of the craze of those movies. And I'm sure Paterson was around somewhere but, literally running. And the guy that turns that camera and comes running behind her. But I had countless stories in New York, it would seem normal forever. Then you get reminded by stuff like that.

Reiley Clark [00:41:40] No that's pretty much it for us today. I feel like there's obviously lots of holiday stuff going on. By the time I think our next episode will release, it will be New Year. 

Ryan Alford [00:41:51] I think it will be. 

Reiley Clark [00:41:54] We'll have open mic next week. But I think now it'll come out the day before New Year's. We'll have one more episode before 2021. 

Ryan Alford [00:42:05] We're going to have a cake and have the funeral of 2020 or something.

Reiley Clark [00:42:17] You make the joke you made the other day about 2020 turning into 2021 and being able to drink now.

Ryan Alford [00:42:39] I think we should, we should start. And I love when we were having production ideas live on the show. But that's ok. This is real. That's what Mike is. I haven't watched it in a while. But like Ryan and Kelly, which used to be Regis and Kathy, the morning show. They always produce the show. It's obviously recorded four days before, but they do the New Year's Eve. They are pretending like it's the day up so maybe we need to do a New Year's Day episode. And now if you're listening and you hear both, you gotta act like you think we really think it's New Year's Day because we've got to act like it's really we're doing the need because people are listening to it. And so I can't have, like, all the streamers and champagne. Bloody Mary Barra would be more my style but like it's champagne's good. Good stuff. And some Dom Perignon or something. I've got a few bottles of that in the cellar. We'll see. 

Reiley Clark [00:43:53] Yeah we'll see. It goes round. So that is it for us today. And you all hear Ryan tonight, tomorrow on our news episode. So. Well we'll do a Christmas edition for that one. So that's it for us. 

Ryan Alford [00:44:08] We'll see you next time. Follow along at TheRadCast.com. 

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